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Dunedinite
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ID Request, Dunedin, New Zealand

#23190877 - 05/05/16 01:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Species 1:

Habitat:
Woodfilled grass.

Gills:
Pale brown. attached(unsure?), gills

Stem:
70mm long, 6mm diameter, brown at base, fading to whitish at top, hollow, thick, has a small bit of veil (is that the right term?) attached near top.

Cap:
45mm diameter, rusty brown in middle, fading to pale brown/white at edge, conical, convex

Spore print color:
The first one I did on tinfoil looks kind of dark, but comes out rusty brown when photo is taken using flash. I am doing another print on white card that looks initially dark brown, but will need longer to get a decent print.

Bruising:
Brown is only bruising I can see.

http://i.imgur.com/uBDiRnn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BKkJUxG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CqeotTR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jwd7FX1.jpg - Foil print
http://i.imgur.com/r4W1E5a.jpg - White card print
http://i.imgur.com/KazdyEm.jpg - White card print

Update 1: I ran my finger across the spores on the foil and it came off black on my finger and then black when rubbed off on paper:
http://i.imgur.com/81uFWNw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b6Ju673.jpg

Species 2
Habitat:
Woodchips

Gills:
White to brown, unattached

Stem:
10-70mm long, 2-3mm diameter, brown at base, fading to whitish at top, hollow, thin

Cap:
10-40mm diameter, varying from greyish/brown to brown in colour, conical, convex

Spore print color:
Looks dark on tinfoil, but didn't come out very well in photos, second try on white card looks dark too.

Bruising:
Can't see any.

http://i.imgur.com/skFWNut.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yZX7D7x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/irO9UFT.jpg - Foil print
http://i.imgur.com/LXnte9H.jpg - Foil print
http://i.imgur.com/SBml3cs.jpg - White card print

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I'll update shortly with better spore prints.

Edited by Dunedinite (05/05/16 01:18 AM)

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Dunedinite
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Re: ID Request, Dunedin, New Zealand

[Re: Dunedinite]
#23190951 - 05/05/16 02:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Update on spore print: http://i.imgur.com/8u7k9Z2.jpg

Seeing the two different ones side by side really demonstrates how rusty brown Species 1 spores are. Is it possibly Gallerina marginata? And I'm thinking species 2 might be Panaeolus sp.?

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Re: ID Request, Dunedin, New Zealand

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#23190961 - 05/05/16 02:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Second species looks like Psathyrella, and I'm thinking that's a possible suggestion for the first one as well.
I don't know NZ mushrooms very well.

Your prints are quite weak, that's why the first one shows its "true" color - black - when wiping the surface.

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Re: ID Request, Dunedin, New Zealand

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#23190976 - 05/05/16 02:47 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Anglerfish said:

Your prints are quite weak, that's why the first one shows its "true" color - black - when wiping the surface.

I'm too impatient to leave them to sit for long, but I'll do so with these ones.

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#23190980 - 05/05/16 02:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dunedinite said:

I'm too impatient to leave them to sit for long, but I'll do so with these ones.

I always leave mine overnight, covered up to keep moisture.

Please also bring your camera when hunting, in situ shots are more often than not essential for identification.

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