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billyrubin
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ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species
#25108769 - 04/02/18 02:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I picked these for my own education, noticed them while out tramping, they looked similar to P.Wearoa, and had some blueing.
They got quite battered so have extensive blueing everywhere, very hard to capture a good photo, but I can try and improve on those below. One picture is of the fungus cut in half, unusual amorphous centre ní discernible gills etc.
Habitat:Dwarf beech forest in southern fiordland.
Whitish - cream pouch fungus,with some blueing when fresh. no obvious stem, even on cross section. No obvious gills on cross section. Some smaller species observed, but average 0.5-1inch diameter
Does anyone have any recommendations as to how to spore print? I cut one in half and placed on paper under a glass, but no spores.
This is how they would have appeared fresh
https://goo.gl/images/QsvSHj
Here are my images https://imgur.com/a/x6zgC
Edited by Alan Rockefeller (04/02/18 03:27 PM)
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applesmasher420
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: billyrubin]
#25108793 - 04/02/18 03:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hollyy crapppp...
Weird and Hawt... 
Only thing that looks strange is your cross section

Compared to photos of what is should look like


Make sure to dry some samples for science!! Do you have access to an Agar petri dish? You could also use a sterile cotton swab on the gills for spores. That is if you see any gills. (I dont see any)
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Edited by applesmasher420 (04/02/18 03:04 PM)
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Doc9151
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: applesmasher420]
#25108944 - 04/02/18 04:08 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Clear pictures in natural light helps make id's easier, it's possible they are psilocybe weraroa but I can't say for sure with those pictures.
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karode13
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: billyrubin]
#25109096 - 04/02/18 05:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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This resembles a truffle-like fungi rather than pouch fungi. It's not Psilocybe weraroa.
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billyrubin
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: karode13]
#25109634 - 04/02/18 09:20 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://imgur.com/a/BCXUA
Interesting that ye are finding them uncommon!
Better image of the blueing.
These have no stem or gills, is there a differential for an active truffle occurring above the soil?
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karode13
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: billyrubin]
#25109704 - 04/02/18 10:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Psilocybe weraora aren't uncommon here. The picture you provided just didn't show the features. The newer ones convince me that you potentially have some in there. I'd like to see a cross section, showing the stem like in pictures above, before making a final decision. I'm thinking the gills inside are still immature and it's why they're so pale. I could be wrong.
Some in there do look dodgy. The whiter ones that aren't bruising. Again, not sure.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: karode13]
#25109709 - 04/02/18 10:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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The newer pictures do have a cross section. Not Psilocybe. I think there is a blue staining truffle type thing, probably not active. Don't remember the name.
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karode13
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I saw the cross section. I thought maybe it was off axis, not showing what I wanted to see to say pretty much exactly what you've said above. I didn't think there were gills in there. I see convoluted chambers like I see in truffles here in Aus.
Thanks for confirming the existence of another bluing truffle. I thought I'd read about it somewhere in the past.
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: karode13]
#25109762 - 04/02/18 10:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback lads, much appreciated.
After some looking around I'm 100% it's Chamonixia pachydermis,an inedible. I've never seen blueing like this before in a non-active species. Cool to have seen these interesting fellas.
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: billyrubin]
#25109826 - 04/02/18 11:27 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome.
Looking it up tells me it has a new name, Rossbeevera pachydermis.
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: karode13]
#25109831 - 04/02/18 11:28 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also called by its common name potato fungus.
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25109849 - 04/02/18 11:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pffft! Common names!
I'm not really like that, just don't care for common names. Plus, the one for this one is kind of lame. Blue blob fungi is much better.
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Re: ID request:New Zealand psilocybe species [Re: karode13]
#25109878 - 04/02/18 11:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
karode13 said: Looking it up tells me it has a new name, Rossbeevera pachydermis.
Yea that's it!
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karode13
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Doing some reading on it now. It's quite interesting. Glad it popped up here.
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