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Peaking hard
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Some one please enlighten me. Who is god? Who is pulling the strings? Riencarnation? Are we alone? Population control? Heaven hell..dont believe in hell or satan personally. From what I know of love there can be no hell. If there is a Hell than God is spitefull and God is hate..


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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: Zane4444]
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This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.

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This thread is better suited for S&M.

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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: CosmicJoke] * 1
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God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The allegory of His light is that of a pillar on which is a lamp. The lamp is within a glass. The glass is like a brilliant planet, fueled by a blessed tree, an olive tree, neither eastern nor western. Its oil would almost illuminate, even if no fire has touched it. Light upon Light. God guides to His light whomever He wills. God thus cites the parables for the people. God is cognizant of everything. [24:35 Quran]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Russell
Russell wrote that "the cardinal error of science" is "shutting the Creator out of his Creation."[34] Russell never referred to an anthropomorphic god, but rather wrote that "God is the invisible, motionless, sexless, undivided, and unconditioned white Magnetic Light of Mind"[35] which centers all things. "God is provable by laboratory methods," Russell wrote, "The locatable motionless Light which man calls magnetism is the Light which God IS."[36] He wrote that Religion and Science must come together in a New Age.[37]

Science and Religion, both point in one direction alone: the Truth itself

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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: crkhd]
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There is a hell, although I don't believe it lasts for an eternity (not infinite temporal time) but its true that making certain choices and decisions lead to consequences of suffering and if these choices are persisted in, the suffering can eventually become so great one finds themself in "hell", whether in this life or the next.

I was reading on this site bible-thruths.com how the common Christian idea that hell is eternal suffering is actually based on mistranslations of words like hades and sheol combined with the modern western understanding of time as linear.

Ancient cultures instead understood time as cyclical and according to that website, the Bible is speaking of creation cycles known as aeons. The worst most evil souls, will find themselves trapped in "punishment" for the rest of the aeon or creation cycle but they will get another shot as salvation once this cycle is over with.

This is more in line with the Jewish understanding, which was that evil souls only go to a place of suffering for a period of time, no eternal condemnation. There is also the possibility that the most evil souls are simply destroyed and their energy recycled back into the Godhead.

Another misunderstanding is that when the Bible speaks of souls departing into the eternal fire for example, Christians assume this means the soul will suffer for all eternity. But another way to understand this is that the fire itself is what is eternal, as fire is one the four eternal elements of creation (fire, water, earth sky) but not that the soul itself will remain immersed in fire forever.

I am still researching these concepts and have much to learn so excuse the imcoleteness of this response.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

Edited by Peyote Road (04/23/16 07:31 PM)

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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: Peyote Road]
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i think in most cases, hell is self created

and one form of self creating hell to some degree, is ironically fearing hell and punishment, and giving in to ideas of guilt and lack of self-worth, etc...

i don't believe that the Divine would find it hard to forgive even the apparently worst of humans (nor would we if we could see the entire web of casual relations that led to their choices) :smile:

that said, certain choices naturally have negative repercussions, perhaps intentionally as a form of self-correcting measure - but i don't think it's ever an issue of punishment :smile:


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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: Peyote Road]
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Peyote Road said:
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+ like a 1000.  Great post.


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Re: Peaking hard (moved) [Re: Peyote Road]
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Peyote Road said:
The worst most evil souls, will find themselves trapped in "punishment" for the rest of the aeon or creation cycle but they will get another shot as salvation once this cycle is over with.



What a bunch of shit... where do you guys dream up this drivel?


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Re: Peaking hard [Re: Zane4444]
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Zane4444 said:
Some one please enlighten me. Who is god? Who is pulling the strings? Riencarnation? Are we alone? Population control? Heaven hell..dont believe in hell or satan personally. From what I know of love there can be no hell. If there is a Hell than God is spitefull and God is hate..



You'll need to live a life fairly directed by contemplation, if not enhanced by Entheogenic Excursions which are ALSO directed towards contemplation in order to receive answers. Answers cannot derive from outside yourself. They arrive in their completeness as Gnosis, mystical unity wherein "Head and Heart are not apart," as poet Paul Reps put it. Scriptural writings are to be read on four separate levels, according to Jewish exegesis. This is understood to a large extent by the mystically-inclined in Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity, not so much in my experience in the mainstream Protestant denominations, and definitely not among any of the 200 some odd smaller denominations. In Judaism, there is 'pardis,' an acronym which forms the basis of the English word 'paradise,' and a reference that the words of Jesus to Heaven in Luke 23:43. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardes_(Jewish_exegesis)

Post-mortem conditions vary from religion to religion, but one gets the idea that as one dies, time undergoes a transcendence and the various psychospiritual moments of death, ascension, judgement, resurrection occur in between temporal moments in a Parmenidean timelessness. That is to say, these are not temporal events which follow one another because duration is not characteristic of eternity. They are depicted as such in mythic language in the New Testament, but timelessness can only be experienced in mystical unity, which is what I wrote above, and it is ineffable so it cannot be described linearly with language. Like death, one has to experience it for oneself. This whole trip is shrouded in Mystery. Do not expect 'form,' neither of yourself, nor a glowing personage upon a throne. Post-mortem experience is probably not a Chick® Christian tract. :lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_tract

Similarly, reincarnation is taken literally among literalist Hindus. Buddhist rebirth is a completely different concept which all too many Westerners confuse and conflate. Regardless of the concept of transmigration (or metempsychosis) of which there are Greek and even currently Jewish schemes, the unique individual comprised of lower aspects of the 'soul' (psyche, ψυχή) which include ratiocination, memory, and other functions, do not survive death. A simple and  impersonal (or perhaps transpersonal) awareness of our core 'soul' remains untouched by death (according to Plotinus and others who have followed Plotinus in Christianity such as Meister Eckhart). This again is why mystical experience is prepared for by a contemplative lifestyle. The experience brought back from Unity to mundane life results in Gnosis, a Knowing that transcends both words and faith. When BBC journalist John Freeman asked C.G. Jung if he believed in God, Jung replied, "I don't need to believe...I Know." Satisfactory answers will require preparatory study, but more importantly, experience that results in a priori Knowledge, Gnosis.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (04/24/16 07:15 PM)

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Re: Peaking hard [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Well I believe you are on a high, of the probability wave of life..based on nutrients consumed..and reasons to forgive the high life itself..you will likely have a good time..and come to the understanding that life is always like this..and that my friend is the miracle!


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