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Need Nootropic help * 1
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I've decided I'm going to order a nootropic blend to try and help with my cognitive abilities and such.

I'm not sure where to put this as far as threads go, so I'l just post it in the pub. I have never taken any nootropic and I'm looking into buying a sampler. The sampler I'm looking into has this in it
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Price: $21.99
Noopept Powder 1g

Pramiracetam 5g

Aniracetam 10g

Oxiracetam 10g

Choline Bitartrate 25g


I've never taken any nootropics before, is this a good amount, and a good choice of noots for a beginner? How long would this sample last me and are there any other good choices of nootropics to add into there? I'm looking to have increased energy, and focus, but I would also like to have a seperate nootropic, to help me fall asleep at night...
Are their any nootropics that can help relaxation, or even help me fall asleep? I figured just taking the energy boosting noots in the morning, would help me fall asleep at night, but to add to that, even if taking the supplements in the AM would make me tired when night time came around, are there any nootropics that promote relaxation, and sleep, that I can dose before bed? Getting a good night's sleep is the main reason I'm looking into nootropics to be quite honest. I have a very difficult time going to sleep, which on the fleep side, not being able o sleep, makes me very very tired when I wake up the next day. This is why I'm asking if I should add any of my own ingredients to this smapler, as they seem to all be energy related, and help me stay awake, not necessarily help me fall asleep.

My sleep schedule is already pretty fucked, and my ability to actually fall asleep is pretty fucking awful, so I was wondering if there's any nootropics you guys would recommend, either in the AM to keep me awake, OR Preferably just a nootropic that would help me sleep, that's the most important aspect that I am looking for, I want a nootropic that will help me relax and fall asleep MORE SO than one that would make energetic I'd rather take something to help me relax than take something to help me wake up,


A question for the mods too, if I post the website I'm using and ask if anyone's tried this website, and ask for opinions on their products, Is that still counting as a source discussion? I don't want to get banned, but I also don't want to end up losing money, to a scammer,I'm not sure if posting sources applies to noots so I'm going to wait until I get a mod's go ahead to post the website I'm looking at ordering from, and asking any opinions on it.

Any help is appreciated.


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Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica]
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Someone is probably going to say phenibut, so I am gonna go ahead and say it works but that shit is very dependence forming (think benzo) and I'd recommend avoiding it. If you can keep it to 2 doses a week you'll probably be fine, however if you are like me where if you have drugs you do them, ordering it is a very bad idea.

Not a nootropic but you could try ordering some valerian root extract. It is very subtle usually but does help me fall and stay asleep. I'd look for someone with a fresh extract rather than that mass produced precapped stuff that has been sitting in a warehouse for god knows how long. Another non-nootropic is diphenhydramine. That stuff knocks me out and you can get a bottle of 1000 50mg caps for 20 bucks on amazon.

I don't know a thing about racetams so idk about that sampler you are looking at.

For an energy boost kratom does a great job but is habit forming and can give you anywhere from no to moderate opiod withdrawal symptoms depending on how much and often you take.

Edited by luvdemboomers (03/13/16 04:49 PM)

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: luvdemboomers]
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What are phenibut effects? I know basically nothing about Noots as is so just telling me "try phenibut" doesn't really tell me enough.

I'm very nieve when it comes to nootropics.


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Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
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Its cool bruh it probably means you aren't a faggot


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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: luvdemboomers]
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luvdemboomers said:
For an energy boost kratom does a great job but is habit forming and can give you anywhere from no to moderate opiod withdrawal symptoms depending on how much and often you take.


Kratom sucks. Don't recommend people that. Everyone's always talking about in on here and it's genuinely one of the most worthless drugs I've ever done.

It's also not a nootropic.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
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Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
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To each their own :shrug: ....

...Kratom is hands down my favorite medicinal plant, on par with cannabis (which is saying a lot from me lol, as I hold that plant in very high regards ). It does A LOT for me. It's like a panacea for me.

I also find some of the green vein strains of kratom to have a nootropic-like effect for sure, curious what alkaloid(s) are more prevalent in those strains . (obviously not to the extent of -racetams, but there's certainly a "mind sharpening" effect with several green varieties that I've tried).




Anyway, don't mean to push this thread off into a tangent....I was just chiming in and posting so I can follow the thread. I'm curious about this subject and some of the questions you're asking in your OP as well.






-OM


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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: openmind] * 1
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Kratom saved my step-moms life. It also happens to be, like, my favorite recreational substance


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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Well, I'm asking about nootropics so I would appreciate you guys not clogging up this thread with Kratom. There are other threads for that.

Not trying to be rude, but it simply doesn't belong here.

Just Stop bringing up Kratom. I thought telling the first person not to bring it up would have applied to everyone but apparently not. I don't need everyone's two cents on Kratom, if you want to discuss kratom as a nootropic, make your own thread, don't do it in mine. Not trying to be mean, I just don't have time to sort through all that stuff.

I know about Kratom, it's effects are highly exaggerated, and in all of my research has proven to be an extremely expensive, terrible waste, if not completely useless to achieve any sort of useful effects out of it. Regardless of my opinion on the matter, it simply isn't a nootropic. To say it has "mind sharpening effects" is a huge stretch, but not only that, you could say this about any drug.

Methamphetamine sharpens the mind quite a lot, but It's still not a nootropic.

But lets not get off on a tangent here about how I don't like Kratom. That's not important.



Back on topic.

Does anyone think I'd be better off choosing what nootropics I want, rather than the sampler they offer?
After looking at the dosages of the sampler. it seems that what I thought was  good value, is really only enough product for like two weeks tops. From my research too, it seems to me that nootropics build up over time ingested, so eating a nootropic one day might have no effect. But eating a nootropic the smae time every day, for 3 weeks, could have a drastic effect.

I'm thinking that I'm better off, buying all the nootropics individually, the more research I do on the sampler, the more it seems like a waste of time. If I do decide to order them individually, which I'm thinking is a better, what racetam is the best / strongest in effect?

I will be ordering at least grams of phenibut to be sure, the picture said that it was 100 grams but after reading the price, I was apparently only set to order 25 grams, the 100 gram product is too much to order before knowing If I like it or not. after doing some research it seems to be the closest thing to what I'm looking for as far as a nootropic to help my ability to relax, and sleep.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

Edited by Psychonautica (03/13/16 05:43 PM)

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
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:smugjerry:


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
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A bunch of jokes, with a grain of truth in each.

The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

What will be, will be. :pipesmoke:

Edited by psychobla (05/23/17 09:33 PM)

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
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Psychonautica said:
What are phenibut effects? I know basically nothing about Noots as is so just telling me "try phenibut" doesn't really tell me enough.

I'm very nieve when it comes to nootropics.


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Kratom sucks. Don't recommend people that. Everyone's always talking about in on here and it's genuinely one of the most worthless drugs I've ever done.

It's also not a nootropic.



It's sunday but i'd swear you have a case of the mondays

:smugjerry:

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: luvdemboomers]
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Stop derailing my thread about Kratom. Jesus christ. I'm trying to get important information here knock it off.

No duh I have a case of the mondays.I've asked nicely and 2 more people at to chime in about kratom for fucks sake make your own thread if you want to discuss it I wouldn't have the case of the mondays if you guys wouldn't derail my threads where I'm asking for useful information here. The shroomery's Kratom community is like a bunch of middleschool potheads screaming "420blazeit lol weed cure cancer hahah hashtag yolo swag" but instead of posting dumb shit about weed you guys post dumb shit about the worlds mildest opiod.

NSAID's have better analgesia than kratom.

It's a terrible drug and a waste of money. If you disagree with me make your own thread about it and waste someone else's time and money.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT KRATOM MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT IT, NOT HERE.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica]
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:smugjerry:

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica]
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kratom and phenibut are not nootropics


Colouracetam and Noopept are my faves but a lot of people swear by Aniracetam. I don't get much out of it. Never tried Pram or Oxi.

Edited by morrowasted (03/13/16 06:07 PM)

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: luvdemboomers]
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psychobla said:
Weed for the sleep. Edibles if necessary. Seriously.


The point of nootropics to help me relax / sleep are to avoid using psychoactive drugs.

luvdemboomers said:
:smugjerry:



See yourself out of my thread. You've done nothing but clog it up with your shitposts and stupid ass smug jerry greamlin. I was trying to get responses quickly so I could order and still have it shipped out by monday, Evidently that's not going to happen since you guys would rather derail a thread into a completely irrelevant off topic.

I don't have the case of the mondays, I have a case of you guys have already annoyed me in less than 5 minutes of making this thread.


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
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phenibut is a psychoactive drug that acts on gaba to make you feel goofy and disinhibited like xanax but without the memory loss. it is EXTREMELY HABIT FORMING. and withdrawls are EXCRUCIATING. don't even touch it imo.

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: Psychonautica] * 4
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Lets see, I type up the best advice I have for your situation. 8 sentences. One is about kratom. You bitch about how kratom sucks, further provoking discussion on it and then bitch about how it's clogging your thread. Makes sense.

I think I'll hang around, this is entertaining.

:smugjerry:

Edited by luvdemboomers (03/13/16 06:14 PM)

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
kratom and phenibut are not nootropics


Colouracetam and Noopept are my faves but a lot of people swear by Aniracetam. I don't get much out of it. Never tried Pram or Oxi.


Kratom is not a nootropic I understand that, but how is phenibut not a nootropic?


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The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one
3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother.
Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
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Nigged.


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Sheekle said:
yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Re: Need Nootropic help [Re: morrowasted] * 2
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:smugjerry:.


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[quote]Sheekle said:
[quote]ThatKidWithTheFace said:
Is this the same aunt that fucks dogs?[/quote]
u bet ur ass it is.[/quote]

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