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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Moonshoe]
#21308945 - 02/21/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Etiz is not a benzo though it has some similar effects. OP, why do you say:
"I am aware of its severe memory and cognition impeding effects and the possibility of increased risk of alzheimers, dementia and just forgetfulness. "
This is characteristic of benzos, they are nasty drugs highly addictive and harder to get off of than heroin. I have not heard this said about etiz though it must be used carefully to avoid addiction.
Phenibut is more addictive than etiz, using it every other day will land you in trouble sooner or later. You may have danced with the devil and gotten away with it but there is still a risk. I recommend
baclofen picamilon
and possibly
lyrica (pregabalin) gabapentin
Simply taking more magnesium every day will help calm you down.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Stonehenge]
#21310538 - 02/21/15 08:09 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool well I will try to get my Ativan refilled again asap, my doc has been good about giving me reasonable amounts of benzos.
I will also try buying some picsmillon and baclofen soon
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Moonshoe]
#21313339 - 02/22/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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MS, in my limited knowledge of your post history and history of drug use I'd say you're looking for something that can't be found.
You seem to have been seeking, for quite some time now, that "one drug" that will make life easily manageable in the best way possible. Something to soften all the hard edges, smooth the bumps in the road, silence your voice of doubt. Benzos were too risky, the vitamins fell short, and nootropics didn't make the cut. Might I suggest that what you're looking for might simply not exist (if it did, we'd all be on it).
I think the only drug you need is mental fortitude, the ability to calmly and rationally process situations that might bother most people. That can be built, I'm working on it myself.
I'm only saying you should look no further than your brain. The drugs won't give you a long term solution.
*I know this is semi off topic, but I think everyone could stand to recognize this from time to time*
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: ModestMouse]
#21313641 - 02/22/15 03:43 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Gabapentin really does help me with general anxiety. Its non addictive and i take 100-300mg three times a day and then 300mg+ at night for sleep.
Ive only been on it for 3 days now so i haven't really had time to "notice" any side effects but, i do notice that im more relaxed out in public places and i have no problem starting conversations with randoms.
it works for me
I still dose tiz occasionally maybe 1-3 times a week ccuz its 
Ill probably be taking it less for recreational use since i really like this gabapentin. Im just gonna keep it stocked for when im tripping and stuffs
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: DpRwav]
#21313853 - 02/22/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not significantly psychologically addictive, but gabapentin is most definitely physically addictive. Pretty much all GABA drugs are, but especially phenibut and benzos.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: DustBunny]
#21313867 - 02/22/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea i guess my psychiatrist is full of shit.
Idk it works for me and if i take enough i get a nice little "wobbly" buzz ESPECIALLY with small amounts of alcohol.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: ModestMouse]
#21315549 - 02/22/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
ModestMouse said: MS, in my limited knowledge of your post history and history of drug use I'd say you're looking for something that can't be found.
You seem to have been seeking, for quite some time now, that "one drug" that will make life easily manageable in the best way possible. Something to soften all the hard edges, smooth the bumps in the road, silence your voice of doubt.
Actually, I have found it- Kratom. It fits the description you gave perfectly. Its the one drug that makes like easily manageable in the best way possible. It softens all the hard edges, smooths the bumps in the road, and silences my voice of doubt.
It really does all that, and its not addictive and has no bad side effects.
Kratom is my miracle drug. I am just looking for other ones that are also good, but no doubt about it kratom is number one.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Moonshoe]
#21316528 - 02/23/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kratom is indeed addictive. Not as much as other opiods, no where near as much as benzos but it is addictive.
Gabapentin aka Neurontin is often call morontin because of the way it makes you feel.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Stonehenge]
#21316680 - 02/23/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agreed, i would definitely crave kratom when i used it a lot.
Also ive never heard that. It doesnt make me feel any dumber when i take higher doses, just wobbly drunklike. Still very clear headed.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Stonehenge]
#21316713 - 02/23/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have tested it myself and kratom withdrawal for me is just twitchy legs for one day then nothing
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Moonshoe]
#21316856 - 02/23/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I never had any withrawl. Just saying it is somewhat addictive.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: DpRwav]
#21317012 - 02/23/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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ABout as addicitive as coffee or weed IMO, slightly more then weed but not much.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Moonshoe]
#21317838 - 02/23/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: ABout as addicitive as coffee or weed IMO, slightly more then weed but not much.
Famous last words. Eating right and taking the right vitamins and supplements gives a feel good feeling and no side effects.
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Re: Thinking of replacing etizolam with phenibut [Re: Stonehenge]
#21317872 - 02/23/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Idk man millions and millions of people are addicted to coffee..
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