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Grapefruit juice and shrooms???
    #2298921 - 02/03/04 11:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know what this stuff can do for opiates :thumbup:

but can it help the effects of shrooms??????

does 2.5 grams on an empty stomach with grapefruit juice sound like a plan??????? :smirk:

(or maybe juice then TEA??? :smirk:)


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2298938 - 02/04/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what exactly are you trying to achieve? If your trying to trip harder it will only work if you want it to. Its a placebo effect just like when people say if you take vitamin C it will boost your trip.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Osker246]
    #2298987 - 02/04/04 12:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"what exactly are you trying to achieve? If your trying to trip harder it will only work if you want it to. Its a placebo effect just like when people say if you take vitamin C it will boost your trip."

YOUR WRONG......sorta :smile: IMO

Grapefruit juice DOES inhance MANY different drugs!!

I just want to know if shrooms are one of those


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2298997 - 02/04/04 12:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm I dont know I've never heard such a thing about grapefruit boosting effects of drugs. So my opinion is sticking to placebo till others can confirm this.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2299005 - 02/04/04 12:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know it works with Xanax..Probaly not with shrooms.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2299009 - 02/04/04 12:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah it's defentaly not placebo grapefruit juice acts as a mild maoi and will sorta potientate shrooms and alot of other things, best to stay away from amphetamines with maoi's though. i would suggest syrian rue if you want something to really potentiate a mushroom trip it's a magicly synergetic combo and rue is cheap as hell and i recommend doing a simple extraction of the harmala salts (vinegar/salt method on erowid) for no nausea :thumbup: grapefruit juice will help a little but not much.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: John]
    #2299034 - 02/04/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! :smirk: :thumbup:

and I have done syrian rue a couple of times, but when I do that I change my (soy rich) diet for a couple of days, I just wanted to mix up the shrooms and juice and not have to worry about having  soy milk etc etc(everything has soy these days!!)later.


I think this shit would be better with some poppies(I hear) but I am about to drink a full glass of juice with 2.5 grams of shrooms, I will let you knwo how it goes. :smirk:


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2299039 - 02/04/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh shit I never knew that, thats sweet as hell. Now I know what im drinking next time.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Osker246]
    #2299274 - 02/04/04 01:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Isn 't it a mild MAOI? Maybe I'm wrong though.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: TheCow]
    #2299311 - 02/04/04 02:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

jtryptamine said:
yeah it's defentaly not placebo grapefruit juice acts as a mild maoi




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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: John]
    #2299334 - 02/04/04 02:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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jtryptamine said:
Quote:

jtryptamine said:
yeah it's defentaly not placebo grapefruit juice acts as a mild maoi







i've drunk orange juice and grapefruit juice on amphetamines alot before. i assume we're talking about vitamin c as being the mild maoi in grapefruit. if it is, it''s a very very mild one.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: John]
    #2299375 - 02/04/04 02:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There is no scientific evidence anywhere in the published literature to support the urban legend that grapefruit juice enhances mushrooms or any other drug.

Amernican Indians sometimes use the juice to kill the bad taste of chewing peyote buttons and thats about as far as it goes.

The aztecs serve the mushrooms with chocolate and /or honey. and they never stored shrooms in honey. IT breeds bugs.

And furthermore, why is it called grapefruit. It has nothing to do with grapes, does not grow on vines and is not purple.

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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2299454 - 02/04/04 03:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I use ruby red to kill the taste of mushrooms and I haven't noticed a difference in the trip at all.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2299761 - 02/04/04 08:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2299892 - 02/04/04 10:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey mj no proof hun? read the link above gnrm posted.
there is alot more is you search google.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2299974 - 02/04/04 10:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

> There is no scientific evidence anywhere in the published literature to support the urban legend that grapefruit juice enhances mushrooms or any other drug

This is incorrect. There have been several published scientific studies that show a direct relationship between the effects of some classes of drugs and grapefruit juice. The studies that I have read focus mainly on opiates. As far as I know, there is no research with regards to mushrooms and grapefruit juice and would be surprised if anything causal was found.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Seuss]
    #2300465 - 02/04/04 01:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi,

    As far as I know, there is no research with regards to mushrooms and grapefruit juice...

actually there is no research regarding psilocybian mushrooms and any other chemicals...  :thumbdown:

here's more info on  grapefruit juice:

Shroomery Feedback and Administration >> FAQ Contributions >> How does grapefruit juice affect drugs?


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2304875 - 02/05/04 02:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I have no scientific data, but have been told the reason for grapefruit juice, oj, vitamin c, etc. is not necessarily for an enhanced trip, but for a quicker onset. Vitamin C is absorbed very quickly into the body. Therefore, the theory behind this is if you digest vitamin c with the drug then the drug will be absorbed quicker as well.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2304893 - 02/05/04 02:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I usually drink orange juice when I eat my shrooms, but next time I think I'll just drink grapfruit juice and see how it goes. I'm pretty tired of orange juice anyway.


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Re: Grapefruit juice and shrooms??? [Re: coolcat]
    #2305021 - 02/05/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the thing with grapefruit juice inhancing drugs has nothing to do with vitamin c
a quote from the link gnrm posted-
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Grapefruit juice is a potent inhibitor of the intestinal cytochrome P-450 3A4 system (specifically: CYP3A4 - mediated drug metabolism) which is responsible for the first-pass metabolism of many medications. This interaction can lead to increases in bioavailability and corresponding increases in serum drug levels.




the thing vitamin c is susposed to help make the trip kick in quicker is absorbic acid which helps the alkaloids get absorbed quicker like if your making a tea and you put some absorbic acid it will aid in extracting the alkaloids into the water but your stomach already has enough more potent acids in it that i don't think it would really make a diffrence, stuff that neutralizes the acids in your stomach like milk will effect absorbation rates negativly though.


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