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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said:
Although, I do agree with you in a general sense, it's important to keep in mind that people are capable of doing things of questionable integrity with the best of intentions.

Humans are silly.


I think we are totally on the same track. Happy birthday too, mine was a few days ago.  I'm talking about straight losing your mind here. I think if you are genuine and show your heart and want to do good I think you truly can do good. Right? If you put every ounce of your being towards love, I don't think you'll lose it.

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Douglas Howard said:
zzripz said:
I am very into magicians that are being seen on TV. My fave is a guy from same -ish part of country i am from called Dynamo.
When you see some of the things he and other magicians do you just cannot see HOW they done it so it is easy to think/ shit, that IS magic!!!'. Now, I have seen several tricks explained and you think 'ohh maaan how couldn't I see that?'. And in a way it is like explaining a joke, it takes the magic out of it. So I am kjinda content to have this agnostic suspended belief that 'hmmm MAYBE some of this IS magic' lol.

I watched this long video very recently done by christians claiming that Dynamo and all these other famous magicians like Criss Angel etc etc have actually sold their souls to demons and/or the 'Devil' so as to perform this 'real magic' and gain fame and lots of money. And the video shows promotional posters of magicians old and now of magicians who have their image surrounded by little red demons, and usually one whispering in their ear. IE the magicians also like to encourage this perspective. So the paranoid christians are unknowingly part of their PR lol

In this video the judgemental-sounding narrator keeps on saying that the Genesis myth of the forbidden fruit MEANT exactly this---the sin of humans becoming gods and doing magic for fame and fortune

In several of Dynamo's videos you see him go up to people in the street and ask them to shake hands, or he puts his hands near theirs, and they pull away saying that the heat  from his hand/s is as hot as a kettle. In other tricks Dynamo seems to actually have smoke coming out of his palms and other seems to actually cause concrete paving stones and glass form a mould of his hands! As if his hands had become so hot they melted the hard material. In others he seems to create ice out of thin air or just touching a fountain.

The video supports this with a quite from Manley P Hall
Quote:
“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy.”
-MANLY P. HALL in THE LOST KEYS OF FREEMASONRY



Now, the christian has already made his mind up. They are evil, have sold their soul to the devil and this means they will go to hell for ever and ever

But am hoping that the more intelligent of us can explore this sht and wonder wtf is going on...?






That's cool man, I feel the same way.  Stage magic (assuming you buy that it's 100% real, which I think very few of it is) just goes back to that selfish "power". Which I think is infinitely more dark. Just like doing any other magic for selfish reasons

(I keep using the word "magic" instead of "magick" becasue I am against any form of indoctrination)

Edited by Ravendance (02/05/16 03:17 PM)

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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Ravendance said:
Douglas Howard said:
zzripz said:
I am very into magicians that are being seen on TV. My fave is a guy from same -ish part of country i am from called Dynamo.
When you see some of the things he and other magicians do you just cannot see HOW they done it so it is easy to think/ shit, that IS magic!!!'. Now, I have seen several tricks explained and you think 'ohh maaan how couldn't I see that?'. And in a way it is like explaining a joke, it takes the magic out of it. So I am kjinda content to have this agnostic suspended belief that 'hmmm MAYBE some of this IS magic' lol.

I watched this long video very recently done by christians claiming that Dynamo and all these other famous magicians like Criss Angel etc etc have actually sold their souls to demons and/or the 'Devil' so as to perform this 'real magic' and gain fame and lots of money. And the video shows promotional posters of magicians old and now of magicians who have their image surrounded by little red demons, and usually one whispering in their ear. IE the magicians also like to encourage this perspective. So the paranoid christians are unknowingly part of their PR lol

In this video the judgemental-sounding narrator keeps on saying that the Genesis myth of the forbidden fruit MEANT exactly this---the sin of humans becoming gods and doing magic for fame and fortune

In several of Dynamo's videos you see him go up to people in the street and ask them to shake hands, or he puts his hands near theirs, and they pull away saying that the heat  from his hand/s is as hot as a kettle. In other tricks Dynamo seems to actually have smoke coming out of his palms and other seems to actually cause concrete paving stones and glass form a mould of his hands! As if his hands had become so hot they melted the hard material. In others he seems to create ice out of thin air or just touching a fountain.

The video supports this with a quite from Manley P Hall
Quote:
“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy.”
-MANLY P. HALL in THE LOST KEYS OF FREEMASONRY



Now, the christian has already made his mind up. They are evil, have sold their soul to the devil and this means they will go to hell for ever and ever

But am hoping that the more intelligent of us can explore this sht and wonder wtf is going on...?






That's cool man, I feel the same way.  Stage magic (assuming you buy that it's 100% real, which I think very few of it is) just goes back to that selfish "power". Which I think is infinitely more dark. Just like doing any other magic for selfish reasons

(I keep using the word "magic" instead of "magick" becasue I am against any form of indoctrination)


Yes, I'm against anyone that tries to keep people into believing that this is how things were and now, but covered up facts that this approves their belief system. Like Darwin's theory, there's has been a lot of evidences that disapproves this theory, but they hides these evidences so that their belief system still stands. I doesn't know why, everybody makes mistakes, that is human nature; but I guess that they doesn't want people to lose faith in them as if they are suppose to be gods; unless they really believes that they are.

Here's a video that I had posted earlier...






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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Tiny Humanoid Creature
Found In Chile
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John 18:38 “What is truth?” retorted Pilate. With this he went out again to the Jews gathered there and said, “I find no basis for a charge against him.

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Are those faery skeletons?

:fairy:


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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said:
Are those faery skeletons?

:fairy:


Whatever they are, they are real.

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: CherryBom]
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CherryBom said:
Are those faery skeletons?

:fairy:


That's what I thought too :grin:

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Kitch]
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Kitch said:
circastes said:
- spontaneous and phenomenal regeneration of injuries, especially internal injuries (including brain)

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Care to elaborate on that one? I have a health issue that has plagued me for 2 years. It is very rare and strange chronic condition. I keep believing I have the power to heal, but I don't know where that power is atm. I have been lost for a while now. A prisoner in my own body, if you will...

Spontaneous remissions are a thing I have searched multiple times..


It started on mushrooms for me. I was mildly tripping, staring at my garden in this peculiar way, trying to suppress thought I guess, when suddenly I got the strangest feeling in my head. After the strange feeling passed, I felt better, more alive, more me. It was spontaneous and a big leap towards recovery from my own issues.

After that, I found I could semi-will it to happen again, sober. And it started happening in my sleep. I've made leaps and bounds every time it happens.

It all started with mushrooms... they are definitely something else.


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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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At times, I wondered if the video of little people are true. Like in this video, I know for a fact that these people doesn't has the sense or the equipment to have conjured up a video like this.




And like in this video, that there is a possibility that it can be true because of the shadow and how the little boy tends to look right at the same time when the thing has finished darting across the floor, and which most children always does when someone is doing an investigation, that they get in the way.

 


But like in this video, the woman just walked so plainly in front of the camera without trying to see what is behind the tree. Most people while walking away from a curiousity of some sort, that they will tends to walk away backward to make sure that they doesn't missed anything because they are very curious about it. And so this part of the video is a fraud.


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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Beaton's Delight

I communicate with faries :wink:

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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Ravendance said:
Beaton's Delight

I communicate with faries :wink:


That person in the video is very tall like he could be a giant. He is handling that bass as if he were handling a fiddle.



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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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Ravendance said:
Beaton's Delight

I communicate with faries :wink:


Is that you playing?

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
Ravendance said:
Beaton's Delight

I communicate with faries :wink:


Is that you playing?


zzripz said:
Ravendance said:
Beaton's Delight

I communicate with faries :wink:


Is that you playing?


Yeah man and I have a lot of pride too, I literally just posted that to have it on the shroomery so it'll probably be gone soon.

can't figure out how to post videos

Fiddle is what happens when you give a Christian instrument to a heathen.

Edited by Ravendance (02/06/16 10:50 PM)

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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Yes!! I could write on this for days but I'll try and stay reasonably short.
So strap in bitches cause your about to get a fat dose of pure rationality!!

Magic. The word magic has etymological roots that date back to the oldest know written word. When one gazes upon the wonder of the pyramids and the mystery of the strange hieroglyphs of that remain in Egypt to this day, most people are so dazzled by the level of craftsmanship and seemingly impossible to build stone structures covered in these funny ancient symbols that they will usually begin asking questions like "Who were these people and whats the deal with carving shit on everything?".

Lets start with the Who part. In ancient Egypt there were no colleges everywhere and they're was only one kind of science. This science also happened to be their religion and even their government. As a result, they didn't have a bunch of different specialists running around but instead they had one class of doctor/lawyer/priest/scribe/cop/judge and the name of the men were mage's. It was the job of a mage to act as watchdog over the commoners and the only person they answered too was the Pharaoh himself. When a mage wasn't busy with other things he would spend time chipping away at stone as he wrote an account of the times and people of the times and the reason for this was because it was their belief that by etching their lives into granite, they would become immortal and transcend death completely. As a doctor/priest/cop, when someone needed medical help or to receive a citation for immoral behavior the mage would write down his prescription or citation on papyrus by carefully SPELLing out the words before CASTING them onto the intended receiver and whom ever received this SPELLING CASTED on to them would instantly put off what they were doing in order to be compliant to this act of SPELLING.

Alright. Now we see that the Mage often times used a method of CASTING down SPELLING in order to make the people do what he wanted them to do. But what about the immortalization in stone? Well, aren't we thinking about these men this very second? Might that be considered an earthly presence that spanned millennia? I think so.

Fast forward a few hundred years and the name changed as more specialty experts came about. The Mage class became divided and new titles of authority with it. Titles like major, maestro, mister, magnitude, majority, master, magistrate, magister and even Magnus which was the name taken by the infamous Roman ruler Magnus Caligula. 

Now lets have a look at some definitions for the word magic. Magic: the power of apparently influencing the course of events by using mysterious or supernatural forces; the art of causing change to occur in conformity with Will... hmmmmm. Time to start connecting dots.

Lets take one of the titles which name comes from mage, how about Magistrate. So what is a Magistrate? Well a Magistrate is a judge. And what are judges? Judges are men, who have been granted a power to SPELL stuff out on paper and cause other people to act in accordance to this SPELLING... Well that sounds just like the definition for magic!! Robbing men of their own free will by imposing their own. Well it doesn't get much clearer than that. What about a master? Or a Major? Or even a maestro? Hell, a majority can basically be referred to as a coven of sorcerers.

Hungry for more you say!! How about the concept's of conjuring and Talisman.
Conjuring: make (something) appear unexpectedly or seemingly from nowhere as if by magic.
Talisman: an object, typically an inscribed ring or stone, that is thought to have magic powers and to bring good luck.
Consecration:The word consecration literally means "association with the sacred". Persons, places, or things can be consecrated, and the term is used in various ways by different groups.

Alright, so what if one was to Conjure up some spirit and infuse that spirit into the talisman? Well you'd have and object that had been concencarted by a spirit and now it was possible for the talisman to bring good luck or possibly gain control over you is what.

So what about talisman, who cares right? Wrong, it is very likely that you care very much about these talisman. Lets investigate the word itself. Talisman ultimately evolved into a concept called Telos which is a fancy word for Tax and in order to easy pay this tax, citizens were given something called Moneta. The reason it was called Moneta is because it was said that by consecrating  the spirit of the Godess Moneta into piece of brass, that brass would be infused with her spirit and this made the brass much more valuable. Eventually both these word's evolved as well. Moneta obviously became money and talisman became tahller which eventually became dollar.

And finally, one last note, lets discuss Congregations.
Congregation: a group of people obeying a common religious rule but under less solemn vows than members of the older religious orders.

So what is this. Well, consider a graduation or military ceremony. You may notice a lot of funny costumes, hats, colors, rituals, repetition and an certain sense of belonging and importance. You may even feel an energy emotion that seems to agree with the emotional state of others around you. Loud music and an overall sense of belonging bring happiness as this happens. Neuro chemically, what is happening is that through receptive sound and presentation the circuitry of your brain is attaching strong, reinforced a belief that this is very important and is definitely necessary and in this state one may tend to accept any information shared based on the greatness of the event. This is called operant conditioning and is defined as the learning  of a principle in which environmental contingencies—or more specifically, discriminative stimuli (antecedents) influencing its consequences—are controlled and manipulated to change behavior.

Note these conjuring always involve speeches made by different master, majors and maestro's.

So are we starting to see a pattern? The signing of the declaration of independence is a great example of a congregation of a majority and congress too obviously.

So here's the conclusion. Magic is very real and it effects you everyday. If you don't accept that you are under a spell brought forth by invocation of a spirit then I challenge you to go take $200 from the ATM, set it on the ground and light it on fire.

Still think I'm full of shit? Consider a British courtroom. Costumes and regalia galore. Now take a look at this pictures. One is a British magistrate and the other, an ancient Egyptian scribe. Notice anything similar? And for more info, Babylonian sorcery and magic is so badass so look into it.



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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: deezdelta]
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Yes, I remember listening to this talk given by this guy who was talking all about that. However he didn't mention all the numerology and gematria that is being used as a form of magic, and I told him about my research into this which had turned into a fairly long thread here at the Shroomery New fascist bill the NDAA = 9/11 So I sent this guy a summary, and at first he didn't buy it, but when I told him more he agreed! Please chek it out

I have come to the understanding, though of course am asking questions and learning all the time, THAT we are kinda caught up in this matrix where even the English language is built on Pythagorean gematria. So for example, a very important number in Freemasonry, and is a number of their highest degree, is 33. Well POLICE = 33 !
P = 16/7 0 = 15/6 L = 12/3 I = 9 C = 3 E = 5

7+6+3+9+3+5= 33

And you will further see that many of them wear Freemasonic symbolism on their uniforms like the black and white checkerboard pattern, and the square and compass etc. From this--becoming aware of their secret code-- we know who they serve, and it aint us!

This is what is called gematria, when letters are ascribed numbers. IF the calculation is from numbers, which provides a sum you recognize as their secret code, it is numerology

And thjis code is seemingly everywhere, so even say a headline that is about some 'terrorist' event---it can be detected to give a gematria which reveals a secret code sum. A guy called Zachary Hubbard -same channel name-at Youtube is very onto this sht. I dont dig all he says, but have learned a lot from his passion into this.

IF this were so is this thought overwhelming? I think it is both very complex but also very simple--regarding ways to see through it, and shuck off such intensive sorcery. FIRST begin looking and don't let people put you off. Allow your own natural curiousity freedom. Most children are highly curious, always asking questions, I know I was. But 'education' doesn't like this, because it is a main mind-controlling institution, and wants you suppressing/repressing your own thinking, imagination, creativity and shoving in/cramming their sht--to fit you into a role in the Big Machine/matrix.
So to allow your curiousity is to rekindle this lost freedom. At LAST, if you espesh have access to the interweb, can look into how they use magick against us and becoming AWARE actually undermines it because they depend on their sorcery acting on us subliminally. it is like the advertizing industry which also do sorcery on us. IF you realize that certain food and drink is crap, and is harmful to your well-being and children's well being and the environment and other species, behind all their propaganda,  you do not buy and eat/drink it and give the fkcs your money. THAT simple! lol

Edited by zzripz (02/07/16 07:22 AM)

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: zzripz]
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Yes, like I said, I could write waaaaay more on this but I just followed a partial part of Jose Barerra's presentation cause he does a very good job at presenting the concept in a very short time. If I wanted to freestyle it it'll probably be a post about 10 times the one I did. Haha. I'm a very efficient guy for the most part but when I write, maybe not so much.

Yes, gemetria and divine proportion is an awesome topic too. Modern number theory is a form of gemetria but without the divine proportion in measurement part. Or so a number theorist would claim. Actually I'm pretty sure most number theory guys are secretly just practicing the ART's of gemetria and numerology. They just don't want to admit it:-)


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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: zzripz]
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zzripz said:
IF this were so is this thought overwhelming? I think it is both very complex but also very simple--regarding ways to see through it, and shuck off such intensive sorcery. FIRST begin looking and don't let people put you off. Allow your own natural curiousity freedom. Most children are highly curious, always asking questions, I know I was. But 'education' doesn't like this, because it is a main mind-controlling institution, and wants you suppressing/repressing your own thinking, imagination, creativity and shoving in/cramming their sht--to fit you into a role in the Big Machine/matrix.
So to allow your curiousity is to rekindle this lost freedom. At LAST, if you espesh have access to the interweb, can look into how they use magick against us and becoming AWARE actually undermines it because they depend on their sorcery acting on us subliminally. it is like the advertizing industry which also do sorcery on us. IF you realize that certain food and drink is crap, and is harmful to your well-being and children's well being and the environment and other species, behind all their propaganda,  you do not buy and eat/drink it and give the fkcs your money. THAT simple! lol


Do I sense a hint of Thelemic doctrine here?? I do believe I do:-)

Your absolutely right and many don't understand how important this is to understand and practice day to day. Never let another person derail your curiosity, drive or passion because it's very likely that they may not be as smart as you and sometimes there just scared robots. Study what you love no matter what society says about it. Culture has been wrong before you know... Or more like wrong is a constant throughout culture since its inception.

Black Magik at its core is the simple act of controlling the will of somebody else by imposing your will onto them in order to achieve personal gain. When an entire culture of law and un-defined freedom is the foundations of your environment, always remember that black magicians are attempting and mostly succeeding, to very literally harvest your soul so that it may benefit them. This is the true concept of a vampire to by the way.


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Edited by deezdelta (02/07/16 12:03 PM)

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: deezdelta]
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Yes that is what is going on. Both covertly and overtly. Take the so-called war on drugs which includes psychedelics. That is imposing their will on you and me. They say IF you dare pick magic mushrooms which freely grow on the fields etc, you are a criminal and we can put you in a cell. This is a BIG clue who 'they' are. They are part of seemingly different factions of oppressive belief systems. BOTH culture based on Christendom and on Satanism ban psychedelics! Thus both impose their will on the individual. One will claim this is 'God's will' and the latter the 'will of man-made authority'. But it is same outcome.

Forbidding psychedelic experience is also forbidding creativity and ecstasy. This deep aspect of our selves gets pushed into the unconscious. Them the mindcontrollers exploit this repressed deeper part of our being by manipulating our desires, consumerism and sensationalism.

In adverts etc they subliminally put in words and images referring to sex. So for example, I have seen innocent looking Disney cartoon (etc) film promos and they will sublimially write 'sex' knowing our conscious mind will not be aware but our unconscious mind will . So this is the repressed part of us being exploited and hooked to being attracted to some product some fkin corp wants to sell

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: zzripz]
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Don't forget Big Pharma!!! Destroying magical abilities of most Americans daily.

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Re: I'm starting to believe in magic [Re: Ravendance]
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Ravendance said:
Don't forget Big Pharma!!! Destroying magical abilities of most Americans daily.


INDEED all those pills blocking all the CHAKRA!!!


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