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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap
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Not in the sense of macho bling bling, no the very opposite.

I been on another 24 hour meditation session in the Spirit World and it underlined for me the following:

We have an earthly body and a spirit body. The Earthly body resides in the earthly realm and the spirit body in the spirit realm.

Our spirit self is MUCH WISER than our earthly self, we are basically like a little kid compared to our spirit self. It sort of babysits us and nudges us subtly in the right direction as we blunder through life.

But what I found out quite some time ago and now got underlined: spirits are in the polite habit of speaking with one another in flowing melodic rhyme, full of hidden meanings and subtleties. It melodically strings up words that rhyme with one another, often in several layers, then transitions to different word type and proceeds to rhyme on that.

I've had debate of spirits spending hours straight using "spirit song" on me, to seduce and acquaint and teach and relate, facts, to try make me see. It was truly sublime cause time after time they struck chords in my heart with their words, and I hardly could rhyme but they insisted that's fine cause I tried, and new earthlings quite often do worse. This is a crude attempt, its just something I penned, I can't mend or extend, bend, the language like they did for me, in the refinedest of rhymes, and they rhymed it just fine, twas one word in three, without losing key, sense or symmetry, quite unlike me.

Rap comes to mind in this regard, though rap is often crude and superficial in topic while "spirit song" is very subtle and intimate. I just can't put it in words, I do not have a grasp over language like that let alone to do it in realtime to melody.

I want to be able to at least to some degree pay them back in kind so I guess I'll be listening some more hiphop from now on :smile: It was explained to me that earthly music, and that includes the instruments, is an earthly attempt at producing spirit song.

Its quite incredible, I hope you'll have it done for you benevolently in a meditation sometime. Its the most amazing thing ever, particularly when its done to seduce and educate.


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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Asante]
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I use rap/freestyle rhyming in a similar way. Use it as a form of meditation and to allow my higher self an opportunity to speak through me, proving its a higher self through rhythm and rhyme. Learned a lot about myself and the nature of my reality through it. Also be careful of the rhymes that you speak because they are literally spells and play a big part in creating your path. Rhyming is also a good tool for mapping out your own consciousness/thoughts/flow. Enjoy!

Edited by counter s (12/15/15 09:04 PM)

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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: counter s]
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I fully agree with you on that, yes incantations often use rhyme, it gives it more power. Power is on the spirit level and spirits rhyme. Its interesting that you use it as a meditative form, it makes sense to me.


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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Asante]
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22624337/page/3

I had the same idea shared it with pub a while ago.

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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Groo]
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This is a messsage a spirit dictated to me to post on the shroomery to urge people to trip soon:


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High is an altitude. It is the apex, the uppermost. The utmost. High is the sky, the most high. to fly so high and not die, try, to fly to the most high, reach for the sky, try!

Tonigh?




I was so high when I wrote this, each key was found individually.


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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Asante]
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I am about to record some spiritual rap as you say.

Ive been writing spiritual poetry for years now and ive realized the rhyme scheme that is my natural style would transfer to rap perfectly.

Ill post my song when im finished.


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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: hTx]
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Gotta start with the basics, Jurassic 5 back in '01

Jurassic 5 evolve or dissolve



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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Asante] * 1
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try listening to eternal boundlessness by atma. it is the first thing that comes to mind when you say spiritual rap..



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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: TrippeeChik] * 1
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An Ayahuasca rap:




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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: Asante]
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As an aside, the one time I got some violet ectoplasmic activity was through flowing rhyme and rhythmic glossolalia, in fact all three tripees were communicating that way.  It just felt right. 

Like the rushing stream brushes clean things unseen, glean my mean?


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I was rolling around on the ground spewing ectoplasmic glossolalia.  We all spoke a spattering glossolalia amongst each other. 

We also noticed strong electrical malfunctioning (I strummed my laptop cover like a guitar and it loudly reverberated a musical chord through the wall speaker it was attached to). 

On ... 4-AcO lemonade I had this wide amorphous ectoplasm blob stream floating out of my mouth I could control. 

After I trashed it my trip went dysphoric.  Before it we were glossalizing and I was rolling around and strummed the cover of my closed dead laptop like an electric guitar (still connected through the wall speaker) - and it worked - loudly resounding a thunderous chord!

Dennis describes the connection between the tryptamine buzz and the violet psychofluid, as discovered by Terence:

“The D.M.T.-initiated state, which allows prolonged bursts of this vocal energy, he describes as being one of seeing the levels of sound become more dense as they finally materialize into small, gnome-like, machine-like creatures made of material like obsidian froth, which pours from the body, mouth, and sex organs as long as the sound continues. It is effervescent, phosphorescent and indescribable. Here is where the linguistic metaphors become useless, for what the material actually is, is a supralinguistic matter; it is a language, but not made of words- a language which becomes and which is the things it describes. It is a more perfect archetypal Logos. We are convinced that through experimentation with these vocal phenomena, with and without the aid of drugs, it will be possible to understand and use translinguistic matter to accomplish any reality, for to say anything in this voice is to cause that thing to happen!”112





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"I cant trip with any1 because the experience is beyond words its wasting it to try and share it when it happens"



That is where glossolalia comes in handy.  Seeming mishmash, but richly descriptive and creative.

Terrence McKenna talks about this:
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  The fractal elves seem to be reassuring, saying, "Don't worry, don't worry; do this, look at this." Meanwhile, one is completely "over there." One's ego is intact. One's fear reflexes are intact. One is not "fuzzed out" at all. Consequently, the natural reaction is amazement; profound astonishment that persists and persists. One breathes and it persists. The elves are saying, "Don't get a loop of wonder going that quenches your ability to understand. Try not to be so amazed. Try to focus and look at what we're doing." What they're doing is emitting sounds like music, like language. These sounds pass without any quantized moment of distinction - as Philo Judaeus said that the Logos would when it became perfect - from things heard to things beheld. One hears and beholds a language of alien meaning that is conveying alien information that cannot be Englished.

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This hallucinogen induced phenomenon isn't like that; it's simply a brain state that allows the expression of the assembly language that lies behind language, or a primal language of the sort that Robert Graves discussed in The White Goddess, or a Kabbalistic language of the sort that is described in the Zohar, a primal "ur sprach" that comes out of oneself. One discovers one can make the extradimensional objects - the feeling-toned, meaning-toned, three-dimensional rotating complexes of transforming light and color. To know this is to feel like a child. One is playing with colored balls; one has become the Aeon.



http://deoxy.org/t_thc.htm ;



 
Besides, if you can make people feel good while communicating, why not?  I feel like it enhanced mental processes.

Spirits also use humor all the time to communicate.

You sure describe my experience with spirit communication well, Asante.  In the session I did for Shroomery spirits used this rhythm and rhyme rap type thing, for instance after I asked if there were any spirits seeking light:

"Yea, right here.
He's vulnerable in the ear.

The world is spinning on it's axis, secrets here.

I fucking hate it here.
Get back here.
You wait right here.

I guess they don't get it here.

Angels are hearing.
Go and attack his ear.
Press thy ear..."

^Less than a minute (3:00 - 3:54) from my Shroomery spirit box session in the "Bridge to Spirit" thread.


This one's fun...  you can hear the spirits sing "Mary Had A Little Lamb"


He asks them to at 6:40 and they sing from 7:07 - 7:21, the ending "lamb" really highlights their humor, as they make is sound like a bleating lamb.


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Favorite entheogen experiences in descending order:
1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

Edited by flickedbic (12/22/15 10:57 AM)

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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: flickedbic]
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When I was deepest in my psychosis this was all I did. It seemed like the rap would just merge together beautifully without any real effort. It was a fun experience, and it felt like everyone in the universe was singing along with me. Kinda like one giant sing along of universal consciousness.

Since I have been medicated I rarely sing or talk in my head anymore. Life kinda blows because of it, it is a lot of fun when you take part in that sing along.

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Re: Spirit World -- I gotta learn how to rap [Re: CosmicJoke]
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CosmicJoke said:
Gotta start with the basics, Jurassic 5 back in '01

Jurassic 5 evolve or dissolve





J5 my man!

And asante, there's nothing to learn beside the lyrics. Find a song you dig that you can groove to, open the lyrics, and start spittin bars! You'll have a helluva time.

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