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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: KMt]
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KMt said:
Islam isn't violent, that's Wahhabism that the extremists supports.


Nope, it is Islam and it is violent as fuck. Why did those soccer fans at the turkey v Greece soccer match boo during the moment of silence for the French victims and start chanting Allahu akbar? Because most all Muslims condone barbaric violence as long as it's in the name of islam. Islam is violent as fuck however you want to try to spin it.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
KMt said:
Islam isn't violent, that's Wahhabism that the extremists supports.


Nope, it is Islam and it is violent as fuck. Why did those soccer fans at the turkey v Greece soccer match boo during the moment of silence for the French victims and start chanting Allahu akbar? Because most all Muslims condone barbaric violence as long as it's in the name of islam. Islam is violent as fuck however you want to try to spin it.



Agreed, while only a small percentage may be actual terrorists, the vast majority support it. They cheer in the streets when terrorism is done. And if it's only a tiny percent, it would be easy to weed it out right? Not when the majority support it...


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
KMt said:
Islam isn't violent, that's Wahhabism that the extremists supports.


Nope, it is Islam and it is violent as fuck. Why did those soccer fans at the turkey v Greece soccer match boo during the moment of silence for the French victims and start chanting Allahu akbar? Because most all Muslims condone barbaric violence as long as it's in the name of islam. Islam is violent as fuck however you want to try to spin it.


Actually it's because people are making generalized assumptions that all Muslims either actively or inactively support those who do these senseless acts of violence. Though western nations have their way of honoring the dead, Muslims, especially in the Old world, will have a different way of honoring the dead.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: KMt]
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wow at the islamophobia here. hasnt anyone actually read the bible? has anyone actually read the quran? the torah? I'm talking about actually reading - not just taking exerpts from them out of context. If anything, the bible is way more violent than the quran, though all the abrahamic holy books are very violent-no question. people who are saying that you dont get violent christians or jews? really? ?? generally speaking the violence allowed in the quran is more self defensive if you read the whole thing. it is a must that you take the book in its entirety rather than cherry pick bits. slavery and violence is allowed in all the books. and at least the quran hasnt been editted from its original, the bible has been over and over again and used by the powerful to manipulate. does christianity promote violence??

muslims are the new jews. you wouldnt dare say half the things you say about muslims about jews.

i agree with the theology academic in the OP video that religion, like any group, is what you bring to it. even the non violent stuff in ALL these books is used by someone to justify just about anything.

also female genital mutilation is committed by christians and muslims and maybe other religions too but it doesnt come from the religion, it is a cultural tribal thing. Just as women covering themselves in Saudi Arabia was in place in tribal societies there LONG before the introduction of Islam.

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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Webster10 said:
KMt said:
Islam isn't violent, that's Wahhabism that the extremists supports.


Nope, it is Islam and it is violent as fuck. Why did those soccer fans at the turkey v Greece soccer match boo during the moment of silence for the French victims and start chanting Allahu akbar? Because most all Muslims condone barbaric violence as long as it's in the name of islam. Islam is violent as fuck however you want to try to spin it.



Agreed, while only a small percentage may be actual terrorists, the vast majority support it. They cheer in the streets when terrorism is done. And if it's only a tiny percent, it would be easy to weed it out right? Not when the majority support it...



this is bullshit. the vast majority of muslims are coming out against this. there are demonstrations by muslims, social media campaigns, ads in the paper taken out. this is not supported by islam or muslims but if you act like it is then you just alienate the best allies you can have (muslims) to infiltrate these groups of assholes that commit acts like Paris.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Tipote]
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the group that is hit the hardest by terrorism is muslims; i highly doubt there is a majority in supporting it.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Tipote]
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i should elaborate that there arent nice things about athiests but that those that follow the torah and bible are accepted as true believers in the quran.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
the group that is hit the hardest by terrorism is muslims; i highly doubt there is a majority in supporting it.


agreeeee.its what daesh want too


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: millzy]
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millzy said:
the group that is hit the hardest by terrorism is muslims; i highly doubt there is a majority in supporting it.


That's a true statement.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret, by Dr Bill Warner



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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Astral Pain]
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That's 45 minutes.  Do you mind summarizing?


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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No cliffs notes. History of Islam. This place is dead at this hour, what else are you going to do.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Astral Pain]
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my favorite quote from that historical lecture (9:30) "I'm not a historian but a scientist, but I can read from data".

yeah tell me when you have the historical knowledge to understand the situation and the depth of the data past some charts, maps and years.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
muslims are the new jews. you wouldnt dare say half the things you say about muslims about jews.



What an interesting statement. There really is no comparison here. A very significant portion of Jews are actually quite secular, and there have only been a few rare occasions in which Jews mass murdered innocent people (Aside from Gaza).

I am actually very much opposed to the actions of the Jewish State. I condemn their abhorrent behavior whenever the subject comes up.

Muslims bomb people in random places for a variety of unjustifiable reasons, most of which lead directly back to their religion.

I am not an Islamaphobe. I am a fucking realist.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Tipote said:
muslims are the new jews. you wouldnt dare say half the things you say about muslims about jews.



What an interesting statement. There really is no comparison here. A very significant portion of Jews are actually quite secular, and there have only been a few rare occasions in which Jews mass murdered innocent people (Aside from Gaza).

I am actually very much opposed to the actions of the Jewish State. I condemn their abhorrent behavior whenever the subject comes up.

Muslims bomb people in random places for a variety of unjustifiable reasons, most of which lead directly back to their religion.

I am not an Islamaphobe. I am a fucking realist.


haha nice statement, thanks for your reply.

I would just say that it is possible to compare things that arent identical. that what comparing is.  why exclude the violence of israel in gaza or in israel or in the west bank? much of it is linked back to religion for SOME - not all. some its just political. they are intertwined for many issues. just because israel has the quasi legitimacy of a state doesnt mean the religious violence isnt happening. jewish terrorists existed well before israel too and committed many attrocities.

My original statement however was to highlight that these overarching generic comments about MUSLIMS are pretty insulting as its not like all muslims are a part of this at all, in fact a minority of assholes. you get them in all religions. just as israel doesnt speak for all jews (btw i would take issue with calling it the jewish state as it feeds into their bullshit considering 20% of the population at least is not jewish, i would say zionist regime instead)

I'm pointing out with my statement that some of these comments about muslims are remisicent of some of the vile comments made about jews over the last 100 years and so people should be more careful with their words.

you may be a realist, as you put it, but then be real about what it means to compare things and what "truths" or narratives are more established in the mainstream. If you heard on a daily basis about israeli settler activity as jewish terrorism then maybe you would see it more of an issue for judaism to tackle. islam is very active in tackling extremism and terrorism with its ranks. Judaism has been hijacked, Islam has been too though i would argue not to the same extent. We come back to the issue of the media and the awareness of these issues and their pervasiveness.


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:



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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: Tipote]
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"Does Islam promote violence?"

Is Obama's "wife" really a man?


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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: burgerbrain]
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what do you think? forget the bias, this is just a discussion...about this particular story, relating to the question "Does Islam promote violence?", what do you think?

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Re: Does Islam promote violence? [Re: akira_akuma]
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If anyone has a response to this, akira_akuma started a new thread here.


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