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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 2
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ShroomerInTheRye said:
It's usually a lot cleaner in the men's room anyways.



What?

Where have you been using the restrooms at?

Every single women's restroom I've ever been in has been cleaner than their men's counterpart.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: PLURAL] * 1
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^this

Every mens stall I've ever been in I've wondered why there's even a hole in the toilet, seems like dudes piss everywhere except inside of it

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: PLURAL] * 1
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Really?  I find that most ladies rooms are littered with hair, paper towels, and makeup.

On NYE, I went to a restaurant and bar.  There was piss and hair all over the ladies room.  The trashcans were overflowing.  The men's room was like pissing at the Taj Mahal.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: my3rdeye]
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my3rdeye said:
SirShroomsAlott said:
No hate comment here, who gives a shit who uses what bathroom...... your dick that small?



I have seen a few online with huge dicks. That would be weird if your girlfriend has a bigger dick than you.



Lmao! I was worried about that with my pre op girlfriend. I have the bigger dick though.

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
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Gendered bathrooms contribute to the mystification of the opposite sex and makes them seem like "others". Bathrooms should be designated as sitting down or standing up.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: TheMovement] * 3
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I say fuck it, use both bathrooms. Also I use to be a janitor and women's bathroom is way worse. Sometimes I couldn't tell if they had an abortion or not.

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: qman]
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The forum post delves into the debate over gender-segregated public restrooms, questioning whether this is a matter of cultural norms or human nature. The author explores historical examples, starting with Japan's transition from mixed-gender hot springs baths to segregated ones around 1868 due to Western influence. In the United States, gender-segregated bathrooms became common after 1887, driven by industrialization, women's increasing presence in the workforce, and societal anxieties about working women. The author notes that while the reasoning behind these laws may seem outdated, the practice persists due to deep-rooted cultural norms. They also mention that historical evidence for gender segregation in public toilets is limited, suggesting that this practice might be more a product of social conditioning than innate human nature. The post concludes that while it's challenging to pinpoint the exact origins of gender-segregated bathrooms, it's clear that cultural influences play a significant role in shaping our perceptions and practices.

qman said:
SunnyD said:
Most  people are weird about taboos

And stand up to cultural norms


i dont mind too much bathrooms are gender segregated but  i find it silly



Is it "cultural norms"?  Or is it human nature?

Can you show us where in the world humans choose to have both men and women use the same restroom, I'm not talking about a individual toilet, I'm talking about a room with 10 toilets totally open to both men and women.  It can't be a economic reason, it has to be out of choice.



This might be a difficult task less due to human nature and more due to cultural influence.

Though not toilets directly, the query brought up an interesting bit of information on Japan:
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The baths are generally separated by sex, although in some more remote hot springs they still have mixed-gender baths. Actually, the tradition of men and women bathing together in hot springs was standard up until the beginning of the Meiji Period in 1868, when Japan began to open to the west. Mixed-gender onsen largely disappeared because of their “taboo” status in western society. ...



http://untappedcities.com/2012/01/04/a-taste-of-onsen-japanese-communal-bathing-at-sfs-kabuki-springs/

This is not entirely surprising, as when Japan was opened by the West there was a fair bit of rapid cultural adaptation that took place.

What is interesting is that effort to keep genders separate in bathrooms apparently started right around the same time in the United States as well:
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Such laws date back to 1887, according to Terry S. Kogan, a University of Utah law professor and a contributor to the book Toilet: Public Restrooms and the Politics of Sharing. One hundred and twenty-seven years ago, Massachusetts passed the first law mandating gender-segregated toilets, and many states quickly followed suit. Many of those laws have never been substantially modified, with obvious exceptions in progressive enclaves like D.C. and San Francisco, meaning that much of the United States' toilet-related building codes reflect a literally Victorian prudishness that we might mock in other contexts.

These laws arose due to a confluence of several disparate contemporary movements, Kogan explains in Toilet. The centralization of labor in factories led to the centralization of human waste at work sites, which was carried away by recently developed plumbing technology that had itself been invented in response the newly realized germ theory of disease and the consequent sudden push to improve sanitation. Women's growing presence in the factory workforce, and in public life more generally, triggered a paternalistic impulse to "protect" women from the full force of the world outside their homes, which manifested itself architecturally in a bizarro parallel world of spaces for women adjacent to but separate from men's—ladies' reading rooms at libraries, parlors at department stores, separate entrances at post offices and banks, and their own car on trains, intentionally placed at the very end so that male passengers could chivalrously bear the brunt in the event of a collision. The leap from parlors and reading rooms to ladies-only restrooms was not hard to make, although Kogan admits that "it is not at all obvious what led regulators to conclude that separating factory toilet facilities by sex would protect working women." His research suggests that sex segregation was seen by regulators at the time as "a kind of cure-all" for the era's social anxiety about working women.




http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/04/11/sex_segregated_public_restrooms_an_outdated_relic_of_victorian_paternalism.html

The problem that starts when tracing things like this back is that it gets more difficult to find out what was informing decisions at the time.
Trying to trace things back to an earlier period in time was not entirely rewarding, as the best result I found stated roughly:
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Unfortunately the architectural design of toilets do not offer any firm clues as to whether Roman latrines operated on a gender-seperation basis, nor is there any written evidence to support this.  The presence of men only in a wall painting in Ostia, Italy may point to gender segregation, but the evidence currently available is too limited to make any definitive conclusions.



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The chapter goes on to at least indicate that Roman latrines could get very large in size, starting around twelve to fifteen users, scaling up to space for ninety people on communal benches.

There seems like there could be a case to say that gender segregation for bathrooms developed more recently in time; however, it could also be valid to potentially state that since humans felt it to be human nature that bathrooms were separate it was simply never construed as important to document.
It also all relies upon toilet facilities being fancy enough to survive or be documented -- how long through human history were we pissing and shitting in a dugout outside a village due to lack of plumbing.
Not really going to throw in on either side as being conclusively true without more information, and not really ambitious enough to keep studying the history of public toilets. :lol:

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: ShroomerInTheRye] * 1
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Men's bathrooms always smell, there's piss over the place, stuff thrown all over, etc..

I went in one the other day and there was shit all over and around the toilet... I was like WTF:confused:!!

Maybe it's a regional thing?

Some people, mainly men, well boys really, purposely make messes in public restrooms, miss the toilet and other shit just to do it, because they feel janitors are beneath them or something, I've witnessed it myself.

School was the worst, people would poo in urinals and do other off-the-wall immature, ignorant stuff to seem cool to their peers.

IME women just seem to be a little more considerate and don't go out of their way to do the kind of shit some boys do.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: PLURAL]
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treant said:
School was the worst, people would poo in urinals and do other off-the-wall immature, ignorant stuff to seem cool to their peers.



True. In middle school some little bastard pissed on my shoes from the other stall while I was taking a shit and ran off, and in high school I saw a dude come outta his stall with a shitty wad of toilet paper and filmed himself throwing it on a dude in the stall next to him. :lol:


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: PLURAL]
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treant said:
Men's bathrooms always smell, there's piss over the place, stuff thrown all over, etc..

I went in one the other day and there was shit all over and around the toilet... I was like WTF:confused:!!

Maybe it's a regional thing?

Some people, mainly men, well boys really, purposely make messes in public restrooms, miss the toilet and other shit just to do it, because they feel janitors are beneath them or something, I've witnessed it myself.

School was the worst, people would poo in urinals and do other off-the-wall immature, ignorant stuff to seem cool to their peers.

IME women just seem to be a little more considerate and don't go out of their way to do the kind of shit some boys do.




lol I was at a bar the other day and was pissing in the urinal. For a split second I was thinking "fuck these guys I'm gonna piss all over the wall". Then I thought: "wtf, why would I think that... I must be drunk, quit being an asshole". Pretty cool story.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
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ShroomerInTheRye said:
It's usually a lot cleaner in the men's room anyways.



Really? Women's bathrooms must suck!


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 3
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I'm transgender and I shit all over the toilets of both genders' bathrooms.
:blewmeanie:


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
I'm transgender and I shit all over the toilets of both genders' bathrooms.
:blewmeanie:



:rofl:


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: PLURAL]
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Maybe it's a regional thing?



Maybe.  One thing is universal, no matter what.  If you put more than 4 women in a restroom, it's going to smell like hairspray.

I guess I'm thinking of working in an office.  Women seem to cycle at the same time of the month.  We just sort of sync up with each other.  For one week out of the month, every trashcan ever is overflowing.
:ugh:

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Some people, mainly men, well boys really, purposely make messes in public restrooms, miss the toilet and other shit just to do it, because they feel janitors are beneath them or something, I've witnessed it myself.

School was the worst, people would poo in urinals and do other off-the-wall immature, ignorant stuff to seem cool to their peers.




I remember boys bragging about this in school.  I hear lots of guys complain about the trough style urinals where it's one long john.

You're right in that women don't do it on purpose.  There have been lots of times where you open the stall and some woman clearly hovered over the seat and missed...and she didn't even clean it up.


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: qman]
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qman said:
lavod said:
I see no difference between male/female bathroom segregation and the segregation between whites and minorities displayed in the past.  Both are fear based and limit the progression ov humanity. 

And while transgenderism and homo/bisexuality are certainly exclusive ov one another, both represent individuality and sexual freedom.  You're just an ignorant hypocrite, like anti-gay people ov a minority race faced with discrimination.



Do you think women are going to feel comfortable taking a shit when there are 5-6 males in the restroom?

Most would rather shit their pants before doing that, go ahead and take a shit in a ladies restroom with 3-4 woman already in it, let us know how it goes?



Bathrooms for multiple people are generally constructed in such a way that you can see into a stall through the cracks beside the door, or by looking over or under the door and walls where there are massive gaps. I'd wager that there are quite a lot of people who aren't particularly comfortable with how this setup allows strangers to look at them while they're taking a shit or whatever, even if the people exhibiting this creepy behavior are members of the same sex. Make proper doors and walls for bathroom stalls (and perhaps make them a little larger and give each one a sink,) and then you are no longer in the same room as other people using the facilities. Then perhaps the many people who aren't particularly comfortable with the prospect of being watched by anyone while taking a shit will feel a lot more comfortable (regardless of whether or not they've ever met a transgendered person in their lives.)

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: psi]
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So stop being retarded and make closed stalls like the rest of the civilized world

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: Beanhead]
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You think he's responsible for all the bathrooms?

:lolwut:


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: Rocket]
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hi rocket!


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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: sprinkles]
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:highdog:

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Re: This transgendered shit is getting out of hand! [Re: Rocket]
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who cares? population doesn't need to grow. in france men and women use the same bathroom.

'In conlusion, there is no conclusion. Things will go on as they always have, getting weirder all the time.'

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