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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: Asante]
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Did you ever try to kill groups of people who were simultaneously trying to kill you, surrounded by gunfire and explosions, because someone told you to?

I doubt it.

I'm not trying to downplay your trauma, or saying its lesser than veterans even; but I doubt it's comparable at all.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: TopPmz]
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Asante said:
I'm not ashamred to mention it, but I know all too well that most people lack the frame of reference to have an reasonable understanding of what I'm saying.

I tend to use "I'm as messed up as a war veteran" as a clarification often.


Know those feels. And most of my fucked comes from my chhildhood.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: TopPmz] * 1
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TopPmz said:
Did you ever try to kill groups of people who were simultaneously trying to kill you, surrounded by gunfire and explosions, because someone told you to?



Fuck man, what I'd give to have grown up to a psychologically
healthy human being and only then being traumatized.

Sure I'd wanna trade with a tour of duty. Or a couple years concentration camp? Sure thing. I'll have that instead.

I was being taken apart and kept demolished during all my formative years, no adult onset psychotrauma measures up to that because they'll always have a healthy self to hearken back to. That never existed for me. Even the core of me, in absence of traumatic circumstances, is not sane.

I'm not entering a dick sizing contest with equally seriously traumatized people but if we sat down and had a heart to heart most would consider me on par, or worse off.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: Asante]
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You didn't read beyond what you quoted did you?

I said you may very well be on par, but the type of trauma isn't comparable. I don't personally know you, just what you tell us here, so I have no reason not to believe you.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: TopPmz]
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Quote:
the type of trauma isn't comparable. I don't personally know you


Its quite comparable. Though the eyecandy may differ, its all about being forced to be maximally alert for years on end and still being unable to prevent a succession of gruesome events in the absence of safe havens.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: Asante]
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I'll take your word for it, I suppose. As I said, I don't personally know you. How can I argue?:shrug:


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: TopPmz]
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Why not ? If you have no reason or prospective how can you know?  I speak with experience to say sadly the military was one of the better and worst points in my life. I feel more trauma from my childhood years. Want the paperwork or pics of prescription.

While I'm all for being specular on  the internet and all. Being a dick in a serious conversation especially about mental illness is just a no. When people question it and try to call bullshit is the reason why more people aren't as open about shit.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: Asante]
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Yeah, I've read that depression is A) genetic, B) from childhood experiences, and C) relative to your current environment. All these things combined influence this disease, and many others.

I do consider it a disease. The brain chemistry is fuct up.
You may need meds to get it right again, as scaaary as that may be for some people.

When you're at your lowest, and there's no end in sight, you'll reach out and take whatever helping hand is offered.

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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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I wouldn't say that, I reached literal gun point, and found out I didn't have the balls to pull the trigger, and I'm still the same as I was, just accepted the fact I'm a pussy about ending it. Granted I was really drunk when I actually attempted though. Still think about death all the time though and how relieving it would probably be, yet at the same time the thought of eternal nothingness is intimidating even when compared to being miserable, alone, and not knowing how you can ever be happy.

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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: trekie]
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trekie said:
Why not ? If you have no reason or prospective how can you know?  I speak with experience to say sadly the military was one of the better and worst points in my life. I feel more trauma from my childhood years. Want the paperwork or pics of prescription.

While I'm all for being specular on  the internet and all. Being a dick in a serious conversation especially about mental illness is just a no. When people question it and try to call bullshit is the reason why more people aren't as open about shit.


Who was being a dick, and/or calling bullshit?


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
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I mean there's bad and then there's BAD.

For people with treatment resistant depression, and all that comes with that, I def think it's a mental illness and a disease.

Are crappy, just out of the pipeline, AD's over-prescribed?

Possibly, but since most psychiatrists don't take insurance, what else to do?

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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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No. Especially with girls. I was a heroin addict but almost 2 years clean for the most part. Now I'm an alcoholic. I make sure to specifically tell them this is apart of who I am. So they know exactly what there getting into.


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Re: Are you ashamed to mention that you have a mental illness/addiction in public? [Re: Asante] * 2
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Asante said:
Quote:
the type of trauma isn't comparable. I don't personally know you


Its quite comparable. Though the eyecandy may differ, its all about being forced to be maximally alert for years on end and still being unable to prevent a succession of gruesome events in the absence of safe havens.


I'm sorry to hear this.  No child  deserves that.  Some adults do, though.


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