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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: DrRedBush]
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setb said:
They did exactly the right thing, this deal is terrible. All Iran wants is the sanctions lifted and they'll build a bomb anyway.

But you're party right, they don't take us seriously because John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.


I demand you take that back!

John is an amazing American

Here's my rendition of my favorite Kerry moments,

DrRedBush said:
We won't have to do anything.

Israel will just go in a mass killing spree of Iranian scientists.


They best start working up their polonium resistances now :smilingpuppy:


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: twighead]
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That's not Lurch.  That's Slow Joe


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
You can't seriously believe the queen has any actual authority, she has a ceremonial authority. If she ever actually tried to assert it, most likely that would be the end of her ceremonial role.


The queen has supreme authority.  No law can pass without her signature.  Aside from that, the structure of every commonwealth government is crown operated.  If not only the Queen herself, the crown has vast authority over the commonwealth.  Why don't you want to "liberate" canada and the Uk ?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Shins]
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Oh I forgot, the crown was the one who granted You your precious zionist state.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
setb said:
They did exactly the right thing, this deal is terrible. All Iran wants is the sanctions lifted and they'll build a bomb anyway.

But you're party right, they don't take us seriously because John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.


I demand you take that back!

John is an amazing American

Here's my rendition of my favorite Kerry moments,




That's Joe Biden :facepalm:

I should ban you from this thread. If you can't tell the difference between Joe Biden and John Kerry you really don't gave anything of value to add about international affairs.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: koods]
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Joe Biden is John Kerry

I bet you can't find a single picture of them both in the same pic where you can prove its not Joe paying one of his croney's to be John for a day.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
Dark_Star said:
Funny how the only country that's ever deployed nuclear weapons against an enemy is the one that always talks up the dangers of other countries getting them.


Casualties of both Japanese and US soldiers would have been much higher if no nukes were used.



You have no way of knowing that so don't parrot it as truth.


Military analysts and many prominent historical scholars would agree with me. If no nukes were used we would have had to do a land invasion of Japan. The Japanese would have fought the last man. So casualties for US forces and the Japanese population would have been astronomically higher. Not to mention the war might have dragged on for another year or two.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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>Military analysts and many prominent historical scholars would agree with me. If no nukes were used we would have had to do a land invasion of Japan. The Japanese would have fought the last man. So casualties for US forces and the Japanese population would have been astronomically higher. Not to mention the war might have dragged on for another year or two.

That seems to be the consensus. They were fanatics, look at all the volunteers to be kamikaze pilots. They were not going to give up just because it looked like they would lose. The bomb was so dramatic and earth shaking, they thought we would just keep dropping them until japan was a parking lot so they capitulated. If they had known we used up our whole supply they might have kept on.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
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Stonehenge said:
>Military analysts and many prominent historical scholars would agree with me. If no nukes were used we would have had to do a land invasion of Japan. The Japanese would have fought the last man. So casualties for US forces and the Japanese population would have been astronomically higher. Not to mention the war might have dragged on for another year or two.

That seems to be the consensus. They were fanatics, look at all the volunteers to be kamikaze pilots. They were not going to give up just because it looked like they would lose. The bomb was so dramatic and earth shaking, they thought we would just keep dropping them until japan was a parking lot so they capitulated. If they had known we used up our whole supply they might have kept on.


War is hell there are no good decisions but the atom bombs were more humane than a land invasion would have been.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Do you dispute it?


You asked for an example of your blatant holocaust denial and I provided one. You wonder why I call you an anti-semite over and over?

Here's another:

Stonehenge said:
>Maybe the protocols ofvthe learned elders of zion were real.

Yeah, i think they must have been. Otherwise, we would not hear all the howls of denial.

I notice that when zappa gets owned he can only reply with cursing. He does a lot of it in this thread. Hey zapper, got any proof that more than a few hundred thousand jews died in the camps? Try to come up with something besides schoolyard epithets. A good jew could do it, why can't you?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Cj-B]
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Cj-B said:
setb said:
They did exactly the right thing, this deal is terrible. All Iran wants is the sanctions lifted and they'll build a bomb anyway.

But you're party right, they don't take us seriously because John fucking Kerry was negotiating on our behalf. Guy's a buffoon.




...but they're not lifting the sanctions? Plus the UN inspectors having regular access to any and all facilities where they even have the capability to build a nuclear weapon (or enrich the uranium needed for it in the first place). Nuclear materials aren't exactly something you can just go 'oh shit the inspector is coming' and toss in the truck til they're gone.



I remember this, it was like a crappy soap opera that played out through the
90s and 'ended' in 2003. I assume you were a big supporter of the Iraq war
since it seems you would like to see it happen all over again


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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setb, I know you are upset that the dogma you have been fed all your life gets challenged by facts. It must be very disturbing. The people who told you all that junk were not trying to lie, they were repeating what they were told.

Its getting off topic but its a historical fact that millions of Russian captured pow's were sent into the camps and never seen again. Were they converted to Judaism before they died or afterward? If you deny that then you are the denier, the denier of facts. According to you, those who try to correct historical distortions and fables hate jews. How does that follow? How does taking a clear eyed view of history equal hating jews? Explain that to me? You can't.

Are the protocols real or totally fake? No one knows but to even question it or to look for truth in it is another grievous sin isn't it? Another example of how we are told not to search for truth because to do so is to be "anti-Semitic" Arabs are semitic, more so than most isrealis who were imported from all over Europe.

A certain mod will probably soon toss this into conspiracies because he doesn't agree with it. That is the standard around here.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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What protocols?  Are you talking about the Protocols of Zion?  Yes.  They are fake.  Fuck off.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Its getting off topic but its a historical fact that millions of Russian captured pow's were sent into the camps and never seen again. Were they converted to Judaism before they died or afterward? If you deny that then you are the denier


Russenlager were actually worse that regular concentration camps but to deny that
there were not a lot of russian jews just as there were polish and german jews
would be outright denial, to assume that russian jews were not amongst the
soldiers in those russian POW camps is also denial. there were about 3.5 million
russians that died in those camps, more than 60% of the russians captured were
killed, now what you seem to overlook is that they killed more than 12 million
people, 6 million of those were jews and if you deny this then you are a denier


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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> they killed more than 12 million
people, 6 million of those were jews

Where is your evidence? You talk like they were all counted, all said they were jews and so on. No one is saying no jews died in the camps, of course some did. The camps could not hold 12 million and many were rescued when the war ended. If the germans only goal was to kill them, then why were they being fed when german citizens were starving? They would have died in a few days with no food or water but many were still alive.

This is little known but the camps were basically prison camps. German convicts as well as undesirables were sent there and many were released including jews. If they were intent on killing them all why are there millions of former convicts that were released? Many have died from old age now but there were released.

Zappa, you fuck off. Show some evidence to back it up or you are just trolling as usual.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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They weren't being fed.  Do I really needy to show holocaust pictures?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: zappaisgod]
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How long do you think they would have lived without food? How about water? A few days at most and yet there were still survivors.

Of the bodies incinerated at the camps, many were german citizens who died of disease, starvation, freezing or allied bombing. They can't let the bodies rot in the streets so naturally they used the "ovens" to dispose of them. Millions upon millions of germans died in the war. What is so special about the jews who died?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
How long do you think they would have lived without food? How about water? A few days at most and yet there were still survivors.

Of the bodies incinerated at the camps, many were german citizens who died of disease, starvation, freezing or allied bombing. They can't let the bodies rot in the streets so naturally they used the "ovens" to dispose of them. Millions upon millions of germans died in the war. What is so special about the jews who died?


Okay, just chiming in, aren't there videos of hitler chanting shit like remove the jews?

That being said. There's a lot that went down during that war and the following years after that that isn't taught in school. History is written by the victor. I could even go into talking about this nice little core group of families/politicians/businesses and institutions have helped to "guide" history or at least they try to. But as soon as you say some shit like that some retard screams out reptilians david icke mooons a fucking base. I don't want that.

Those who control the money flow in the world control what you read, see and hear. Very interesting to read up on the involvement of certain banking families in certain wars. Vietnam is a great start if WW2 is to sensitive a topic.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Mescalean]
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He doesn't need a source.

Most scholars agree over 12 million people died 6 million of them Jewish.

What they don't agree on is how many people died in the camps.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: DrRedBush]
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DrRedBush said:
He doesn't need a source.

Most scholars agree over 12 million people died 6 million of them Jewish.

What they don't agree on is how many people died in the camps.


I would say well over 12 mill died in the war. That is not a matter of controversy. What is disputed is how many died in the camps and how many were jews. Simply saying "scholars" agree is just stating the pc position on the subject. They know if they said anything against the accepted story they would be ostracized. In some countries they would be jailed.


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