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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: ImSl8]
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your existence not so much however.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: akira_akuma]
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:tard:
You are tantamount to this ^

Edited by ImSl8 (04/05/15 01:16 AM)

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Bill_Oreilly said:
anything is possible. I respect your opinion, OP, but its just that. An opinion. We will know when we die, then if we are born again we will forget again. Damn life always damning our memories and shittt..


I mean in a scientific sense...But only if by us you mean the entire human collective spirit



well that's only because science really cannot prove much because its just a measurement of the physical. But science's problem is that it doesn't evaluate what the physical actually is..it just measures it. So until it does, we are just going to keep getting the same results.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 3
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akira and ImS18...calm down guys.

in the end there is no way to tell who is right. We can only base our logic on our experiences and intuition. If akira believes we just rot when we die, he has the same chance of being right as ImsI8 about his idea of being eternal.

I mean..i myself believe that there is something more. I feel like ever since I got into psychedelics, that I am like a horse following a carrot that's being held in front of my nose by hyper-beings, dead people...God..whatever. Something as big or bigger than myself. I feel like I am being led on, where before I was using psychs I had no guidance. I feel like my life was is a story of "seek and you will find the treasure at the end"...but will there really be treasure at the end? Right now, I cannot be sure. I can only hope and continue to evolve.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Simple reasons why I believe in reincarnation
1) Dark Star Orchestra
2) Energy
3) Myself
Didn't you ever watch the Lion King?


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Live by the mushroom, die by the mushroom
:mushroom2::rainbowdrink:
This is a trap! A trap! You are all busted! Busted! You fools!
:twirlyface:

If a time comes where I fail to appear I've been abducted and I will miss you all
Please smile and pet puppies as often as possible
Be happy
Be nice
(<3);}

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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On numerous trips I experienced myself being part of an evolutionary branch of the huge thing that is organic life. Absolutely awesome and nothing divine about it.


So all these so called souls were kept in storage somewhere for billions of years until life started to emerge and reached a certain level for it to contain a soul (I am assuming the primordial soup of cellular organisms did not have souls or karma). And from that specific point in time more and more souls just trickled onto earth.

And the dinosaurs had souls and reincarnated too? But a bad dinosaur reincarnated as a hungry ghost?


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
if you are to believe that, then you are also expected to believe human carrion had somehow deposited it's metaphorical seed into your genome, and you had your ancestors in your blood, and surely you can't really?


Obviously such tings make little sense if thought of on purely the physical plane... Especially if one believes consciousness is a purely physical phenomenon generated from purely physical means.

If one thinks of consciousness as a universally present extra-dimensional quantum field however.. :vaped:


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¿Check out some art m8?


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Tripsurfer said:
On numerous trips I experienced myself being part of an evolutionary branch of the huge thing that is organic life. Absolutely awesome and nothing divine about it.


So all these so called souls were kept in storage somewhere for billions of years until life started to emerge and reached a certain level for it to contain a soul (I am assuming the primordial soup of cellular organisms did not have souls or karma). And from that specific point in time more and more souls just trickled onto earth.

And the dinosaurs had souls and reincarnated too? But a bad dinosaur reincarnated as a hungry ghost?


Your numerous trips never showed that its only ever been one soul?

Curio


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¿Check out some art m8?


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: twighead]
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Maybe I could go as far as considering 'life' to be a single organism. I dont believe in an eternal soul


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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Bill_Oreilly said:
If akira believes we just rot when we die, he has the same chance of being right as ImsI8 about his idea of being eternal.



No, they don't have an equal chance of being right. If they did then *any* guess is equally right. So I think we all turn into a 40,000 pound carrot with 17 butts on its front side and 42 eye balls on its back. Am I just as right too?

No, the most logical and simplest and least miraculous explanation is going to be correct, ie, you stop living and cease to exist after you die.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Confucian]
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Life's very existence spits in the face of the veracity of that line of reasoning :lol:

The only reason it seems to be true is because we've only ever managed to really piece together the simplest and least miraculous things.


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¿Check out some art m8?


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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morrowasted said:
Honestly I think those people are generally just delusional.


anything you believe is delusion. It's not fundamentally a bad thing.  People claim to be aware of other lives they have lived. I just accept that may be their reality.  Who am I(we) to know what someone else experiences?

The way I see it, is that we are creating reality in each moment.  If there are other lives we have lived, they must also be contained in this moment.


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: twighead] * 1
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It all boils down to nobody knows. There is no right answer. Joe Blow down the street might be just as right about there being no God as I am that there is. Calling someone else delusional because they don't belive what you do is plain childish.

In my opinion everyone has to find their own answer. It's all a coping mechanism. A way to make sense of death and eventuality.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: dnllln]
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dnllln said:
It all boils down to nobody knows. There is no right answer. Joe Blow down the street might be just as right about there being no God as I am that there is. Calling someone else delusional because they don't belive what you do is plain childish.

In my opinion everyone has to find their own answer. It's all a coping mechanism. A way to make sense of death and eventuality.


^ within the world of words, I completely agree. :thumbup:


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Sit up and meditate, there's no time to contemplate.
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I have an international Hitech Psytrance project with a friend: BioChronic
I make various form of Psytrance as a solo Project Dendriform

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Psy Baba]
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If nobody knows I prefer empirical data over largely disproved fairy-tales from ancient texts


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Ach en wee ben ik de klos, met mijn boog schoot ik een albatros...

A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Tripsurfer]
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I don't believe in reincarnation because:

A) It's bullshit
B) See A


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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
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Bill_Oreilly said:
anything is possible. I respect your opinion, OP, but its just that. An opinion. We will know when we die, then if we are born again we will forget again. Damn life always damning our memories and shittt..


If you don't have the same mind and same body how the fuck can you call that reincarnated.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: koods] * 1
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Memories are biological. If you accept the spirit than you must accept that all knowledge on your passing goes along with your meat bag.

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: larry.fisherman]
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I think in an oscillating universe or multi-dimensional model reincarnation is very possible, but body and mind would probably be interchange-able.


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http://bunkpolice.com/basic-test-kit/
Vienna Declaration
Salvia Divinorum The Docudrahma

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Re: The simple reason I don't even consider reincarnation, [Re: Konyap]
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Also I'm talking about fate, not hopping into someones body lol


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http://bunkpolice.com/basic-test-kit/
Vienna Declaration
Salvia Divinorum The Docudrahma

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