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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Why don't we put sanctions on isreal until they give up their nukes? Discuss.


Because they are Jews and Jews make up more than 50% of all of America's billionaires?

You gotta think before asking questions like that man.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Uh, they're not a crazy terror state. I see the antisemites have come out to play again.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Patlal]
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Funny how the only country that's ever deployed nuclear weapons against an enemy is the one that always talks up the dangers of other countries getting them.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Anytime you talk about reining in the nut jobs in isreal you get called an anti-Semite. I don't see iran invading and occupying other countries then annexing them. OK, they supplied arms to rebels in yemen but so what? USA does that all the time the only difference is we do it like a stumbling drunk. One day we're fighting al Qaida, the next day we are giving them arms and calling them moderate.

How many countries are we stirring up trouble in? Maybe the un should sanction usa until we give up our nukes?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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setb said:
Uh, they're not a crazy terror state. I see the antisemites have come out to play again.


Israel is a crazy terror state..

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Well, we know first hand what they can do to people. Think about it like that. They're infernal devices that probably shouldn't exist at all, unfortunately we can't put that genie back in the bottle.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Adden]
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They need to defend themselves from terrorists.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Yeah those horrible Palestinians getting annexed off the map.

The same thing happened to my people by a guy named Hitler. His country's propaganda made my people out to be terrorists.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: setb]
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Iran supplied Yemeni rebels?

*citation needed


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Patlal] * 2
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Patlal said:
Stonehenge said:
Why don't we put sanctions on isreal until they give up their nukes? Discuss.


Because they are Jews and Jews make up more than 50% of all of America's billionaires?

You gotta think before asking questions like that man.


This is of course massively stupid.

Do the mental defectives think that it is a good thing that more religious zealot psychotics get nuclear weapons?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Iran supplied Yemeni rebels?

*citation needed


That's what the media is saying. Don't tell me the media would lie to us? I'm shocked, terribly shocked by the suggestion. If you can't trust corporate assholes to tell you the truth, who can you trust?

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>Do the mental defectives think that it is a good thing that more religious zealot psychotics get nuclear weapons?

Besides isreal you mean? Maybe mad would work, if each side has it nobody will use it. It worked with Russia, your favorite people.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Will you kindly tell me when Israel, who has supposedly had the only nukes in the region for decades, used them? 

Do you or do you not think that Sharia law is psychotic?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Dark_Star]
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Dark_Star said:
Funny how the only country that's ever deployed nuclear weapons against an enemy is the one that always talks up the dangers of other countries getting them.


Pretty fuckin ironic isn't it.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: chopstick]
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There is nothing ironic about it and I'd nuke the fucks again if the situation was the same


Are you also a moron who thinks it's a good idea to let all the gnats and freakshows get nukes?


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Even if that happened it would never be reported on.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Dark_Star] * 5
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Dark_Star said:
Funny how the only country that's ever deployed nuclear weapons against an enemy is the one that always talks up the dangers of other countries getting them.


Casualties of both Japanese and US soldiers would have been much higher if no nukes were used.


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: chopstick]
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This is a really good article on the subject:

The deal with Iran - A major sign of the Empire's weakness

http://thesaker.is/the-deal-with-iran-a-major-sign-of-the-empires-weakness/


Excerpt:

1) Iranians are very smart, not stupid.  They fully understand that a few nuclear weapons would make absolutely no difference in a war against Israel or the US or anybody else.  If used aggressively, they would trigger a massive response and if used defensively, in response to an attack, they would not be here in the first place, because any attack would begin by a counter-force disarming strike, possibly a nuclear one.  Any putative Iranian nuclear forces lacks both the survivability and flexibility needed to be used or even to deter any attack.
2) Acquiring a military nuclear capability would instantly turn Iran into a pariah state.  We saw the sanctions against Iran against an imaginary nuclear program; you can imagine what they would be against a real one.
3) Iran is uninvadable as a country – it is too big, the terrain too complex, the population too large and, frankly, its armed forces too strong.  Compared to Iran, both Afghanistan and Iraq were easy targets (there is a reason why the US has not even attempted to invade Iran since 1979!).  Iran can, however, be very heavily bombed with missiles and successive airstrikes.  This is not the kind of threat a nuclear capability can deter.  In other words, Iran does not even need nukes.
4) The US intelligence community has admitted that Iran has no military nuclear program.  All they could claim is that Iran had one in the past.  Considering the pressure the US intelligence community was under at the time, this is as exculpatory a report as can be realistically expected.
5) The Iranian spiritual leaders have gone on the record multiple times and most officially declared that nuclear weapons are immoral, un-Islamic and forbidden.  Secularists tend to believe that religious folks are always liars, I tend to believe that they do follow the principles which they believe in.
6) It is most definitely not about anybody wanting to get (or prevent) and “Islamic bomb” as Pakistan already has just that.

So if this not about nukes, what is it?

Simple!

1) It is about not allowing the Islamic Republic of Iran to become a viable, vibrant and prosperous alternative to the Wahabi and Zionist client-states in the region.
2) Is is about showing that even Iran can and will be bullied into submission to the Axis of Kindness.
3) It is about preventing Iran from acquiring its own civilian nuclear research program, which is a source of technology and pride.
4) It is a pretext to impose vicious sanctions on Iran
5) It is a pretext to attack Iran militarily
6) It is about subverting the Iranian society

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Mescalean]
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Antizionism and antisemitism are not one in the same. Don't pull that bullshit card


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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Mescalean]
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This is a pretty good speech on the subject as well. Educate yourselves, don't believe the Zionist propaganda machine.

http://thesaker.is/ali-khamenei-nuclear-weapons-sinful-west-fears-a-developed-and-independent-iran-english-subtitles/

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In these extracts, Sayed Ali Khamenei reveals the real reasons behind the Western persecution against Iran on the nuclear issue. It is useful to recall them at a time when in spite of Netanyahu’s raving, a deal seems closer than ever, especially as Iran’s voice is rarely heard.

The hostility to Iran is actually due to the fact that it is a sovereign country which, since the Islamic Revolution Imam Khomeini in 1979, refuses to submit to the political, economic and cultural hegemony of the United States and reached independently a very high level of development. The nuclear issue is just an excuse because a fatwa of Imam Khomeini categorically prohibits nuclear weapons, sometha ruling that no one could challenge in Iran. Imam Khomeini and later Imam Khamenei openly declared the American imperial superpower and its Trojan horse Israel as implacable enemies, and worked crucially against their influence in the Middle East. These are their unforgivable “crimes”.

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Re: Is the iran deal good or should we bomb them anyway? [Re: Mescalean] * 1
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"I won't believe the 'Zonist' propaganda but I eat up all the Iranian propaganda because it's anti-US and that's cool."

Mescalean said:
Antizionism and antisemitism are not one in the same. Don't pull that bullshit card


One is most often driven by the other. Also makes a wonderful cover too.

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