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Rye berry Question.
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Wanna try Rye berries but would only be able to PC them in the jar. Unable to cook them first and rinse with my situation. Basically wondering if anyone has followed the tek of just PC'n the rye berries and what advice/success they had? Also was wondering if vegetable oil could be used instead of gypsum to keep form sticking, basically how you do while cooking macaroni, a lil bit oil? thanks all.


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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: DeeBo]
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well, it seems like your excluding an important (and easy) step. but, hey, try it out and see what happens. No on the oil thing, oil goes rancid and will definitely lead to contams.


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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: soochi]
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oil wont go "rancid" whatever thats supposed to mean. As long as its sterile, obviously, no contams will arise. I doubt that it will help with your stickyness problem since it will most likely be absorbed into the rye berries and not coat the outsides. its worth a try thou.
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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: DeeBo]
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don't use rye, use birdseed... get a kind that's mostly millet, has few large seeds (esp. sunflower) in it, and contains no fungicides or nutrient pellets. that will work excellently.

now... as for the prep... i've always found that soaking the grain for a little while is the best way to go. for each jar you're going to make, you'll need a little less than half a jar full of dry seed, so measure that out (if you're doing six jars, measure out 6 slightly less than half full jars). then rinse this grain in a colander or seive. then soak it in water for 12-24 hours. after that's done, rinse it real well again in the colander and allow all of the water to drain out (it helps if you repeatedly lift the colander up and move it in a downward motion, reversing abruptly at the bottom of the movement so as to use momentum and gravity to drive out water...). when you can't get any more water to drip out of it, it's ready to load into jars.

load each jar half full of grain (do not fill any higher than that). put your filtered lids on them tightly, cap with aluminum foil, and PC at 15 psi for an hour. as soon as it's done and cool enough to open (an hour or so after it comes off the heat), open it up, and with a pair of oven mits, shake each jar so the grain is all loosened up. this will keep the grain from sticking. let cool overnight, inoculate, and shake like mad.

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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: ]
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i think that soaking first to hatch any endospores is a pretty vital step. if you can't do that then...eh

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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: fourHoDmt]
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I really do not think it is that vital IME. I have never prepared rye berries in any other way other than rinsing then pressure cooking in the jar with a bit of water. It has worked for me every time.

Usually I fill the jar a little less than half full with rye berries, water level just below that, and add a pinch of gypsum. PC for 30 minutes, allow to cool. Shake like mad, then PC again for another 30. You?ll get a few dry grains, but it works like a charm for getting the water content right. With a little experimentation, you can get it perfect. Whenever I simmered or soaked grain before hand I would always explode kernels (especially rye). I prefer this way as it is less messy, and I have the ability to accurately gauge the water content.

Other grains I generally prepare in the same way, except popcorn.


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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: ATWAR]
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Gonna give it a go with the PC. Havin a hard time finding gypsum though, any suggestions? Thanks All


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Re: Rye berry Question. [Re: DeeBo]
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Ive just mixed water and rye in the jars and then p.c. without the gypsum. And had good results. but if you can soak them for 24 hours I would adleast do that. I started with rye its not that hard at all. Good Luck with it.

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