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#374074 - 08/18/01 10:32 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374095 - 08/18/01 11:22 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is much easier to inoc them with grain spawn,
But just set them somewhere dark and warm and leave them alone for 7-10 and then check them
Next time it would be easier to take and a half or pint jar and inoc it and when the jar is done then dump it in the bags of rye.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: dimitri211]
#374099 - 08/18/01 11:29 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374289 - 08/18/01 09:41 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think he is saying it's easier to use grain spawn that is already colonized to innoculate the rye berries.??? At least that's what I get.But you are fine using the syringe.Since you don't want to open up these bags. Just lay them on their side in the dark and wait.Rye berries, rye grain ..its all spawn.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#374293 - 08/18/01 09:47 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374328 - 08/18/01 11:23 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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I gave you advice and isis clarified that advice because I was to general obviously
And you need to be carefull with that Can't we all get along quote some people will take offense to you trying to start a flame war.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) *DELETED* [Re: dimitri211]
#374329 - 08/18/01 11:27 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374330 - 08/18/01 11:32 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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I innoculated a couple jars about 1 week ago...maybe more and i dont see any mycelium growth at all....anyone know what thats all about?
I just used spores....no mycelium strain or anything, so do the spores have to germinate or something?
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: I_AM_THE_WALRUS]
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: I_AM_THE_WALRUS]
#374338 - 08/18/01 11:48 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your spores could be dead due to: Age, Heat or Extreme Heat. This could be why you see no growth. Wait a few more days, if nothing appears, then you can consider your syringe a piece of crap, or maybe you didn't let the jars cool down?
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374345 - 08/19/01 12:16 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow. Enter, I was just clarifying Dimitri and Dimitri was just saying thank you.They were both nice post. Nobody was getting upset.We are all getting along just fine.As far as your spores 70.5 hrs,your are still ok. Sometimes it can take a while. Patience is needed in this hobby. That's the hard part. All the waiting. I've had spores germinate take 10 days to germinate. Patience- I have to tell myself that often.:
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#374348 - 08/19/01 12:20 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#374350 - 08/19/01 12:22 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL.Good,I got a little worried about you(jk) Sometimes spores germinate fast like in 48-72hrs. Most of the time is more like day 4-6.So,you may still have a few days to wait.
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#374372 - 08/19/01 01:10 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#377241 - 08/23/01 05:33 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#377318 - 08/23/01 07:55 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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???That bites,but there's still hope that they will germinate.A few questions?Did you make these bags yourself, and what temp are they being kept at?If the PR germinate,but the others don't,then I would wonder about that spore print or syringe. It sounds like the berries are healthy.I'm asking about the rye berries because one time I got a hold of some rye that sucked. Even though I bought it at a health food store and it was labelled organic nothing germinated on those.The spores germinated on everyhting else ,but not those berries. So, I think there was something in them.Anyways,I can't remember if these berries are part of a DB kit or if they are your own.Let me know. Sorry about your frustration. I think we can all relate to that.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#377459 - 08/23/01 11:35 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#377549 - 08/24/01 02:17 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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In my experience germinating on rye takes much longer to show up than BRF but once it gets going is faster due to the fact that you can shake it. I've found that if you shake the jars too early, you can't see the colonisation clearly cos you spread it around too thinly. So if you want to see something don't move em around for a few days.
BTW - AFOAF has some rye jars on the go right now and it took 7 days for anything to show up
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: NDK]
#377565 - 08/24/01 02:45 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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I guess all you can do now is wait. The only problems I had with the DB bags was bacterial back when they were using the other grain.This resulted in an obvious bad smell.I got germination,but extremely slowed mycelial growth.It doesn't sound like you have that problem.So, all you can do is wait. It is not unheard of for spores to take 10days to germinate.Not ideal,but not unheard of.Make sure you don't mess with the bags too much. It will be interesting to see what the PR bags do.Keep us updated.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#382817 - 08/31/01 03:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#382871 - 08/31/01 05:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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That really bites.Sorry to hear about that.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#383929 - 09/02/01 12:01 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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what is a DB kit?
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: Amoeba665]
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#390049 - 09/10/01 08:01 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#390053 - 09/10/01 08:03 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey are you shaking them up every few days or so? Specially the one you say has 20% to go?
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#390064 - 09/10/01 08:14 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL.I did the same thing at first. I coudn't keep my hands off.Yeah, You don't want to move them around too much.The new ones I wouldn't shake until you see some strong growth.I think I shook mine up on the 4th day and again on the 6-7th day or so. Every 3-4 days. I'm not sure if tha't optimal,but I read somewhere that you don't want to disturb the mycelium too much.But if you haven't giving it a good shake in a few days and your 80%, it maybe good to give it one final shake to get the mycelium around.If you just shook it then leave it be.
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 Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#393255 - 09/13/01 10:37 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont know man it sounds like the spores to me. That batch of PR's may have been weak. I've made batches of spore water before where one batch is slow growing and very delayed. Yet others were very fast and germinated right away. Yet, all the spores came from the same flush of mushrooms.
I would give them all a good smell again. Especially before you put that colonized bag into the compost and possibly ruin the compost.
As for shaking them, I only recommend shaking them once. After the bag of grain is about 30-40% colonized, gently shake them and leave it alone.
Do you buy chance have any jars of substrate made up? You may want to do that for back up and inject some spores into those jars just in case those bags of grain dont make it. Or of course I can send you a couple of new ones even though you did not use our spores to inoculate the bags of grain with.
Then again those last 3 bags you did may just come to life. Was it a different syringe? Perhaps one of the spore syringes you started with were bad and the others are fine. A lot of variables here.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#393306 - 09/13/01 11:49 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Captains log, heheh.
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: Ryche Hawk]
#393472 - 09/13/01 03:15 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: World Spirit]
#393603 - 09/13/01 06:10 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess we just cross our fingers now, and say a prayer to the mushroom god. good luck to you.:)
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: isis]
#393826 - 09/13/01 09:52 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Rye Berry Bags (Innoculation and Colonization) [Re: Ryche Hawk]
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