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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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So did the ACA, what's your point?

You got me on that one, I could've sworn I read that somewhere? The patriot act was modified by EO. That I'm 99.000 that's correct.

Fuck it:awesketch:


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
So did the ACA, what's your point?

You got me on that one, I could've sworn I read that somewhere? The patriot act was modified by EO. That I'm 99.000 that's correct.

Fuck it


The point is that it wasn't an executive order and it has not been found unconstitutional. Ditto for the ACA... so far.

In my opinion, both should not exist.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Citizen X]
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I don't think the SCOTUS is done with the ACA


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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May happen one possibly sooner than the other. We'll see


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
I don't think the SCOTUS is done with the ACA


Not by a long shot. Hopefully, it will die either outright (the origination case) or simply by a death of a thousand cuts (the subsidies, to start).


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I wonder how much money zappa has made by claiming native American ancestry? Probably quite a bit.

Now instead of dems screwing up the country we will have the gop screwing things up. They have a golden opportunity to do things right but I have major doubts that they will. They will keep all the executive privilege for the next gop pres and they will keep the pat act and maybe chip a little away from the aca.

We need to see libertarians gain seats in congress so they have a say. I would even welcome a stronger green party or other third party.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Stonehenge]
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How is it that you don't realize that, combined with the dishonesty in your posts, your obsession with him makes you look lamer each time you make stupid comments like that?

Does he live on your imaginary islands and sand bars? Is he trespassing on a figment of your imagination?


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Poor lds, he hasn't been the same since he made a fool of himself in the glacier melting thread. Try to get over it dude, everyone gets owned now and then, it was your turn. Yapping at someone's heels does not gain you any ground.

Now back to the politics thread.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Stonehenge]
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So, still no islands or sand bars. What a surprise.

You have no honor.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Enough. Stop the personalizations, both of you. Either address the thread topic or stay out of it.


Phred


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Phred]
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impossible.


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
I wonder how much money zappa has made by claiming native American ancestry? Probably quite a bit.


Not a nickel
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Now instead of dems screwing up the country we will have the gop screwing things up. They have a golden opportunity to do things right but I have major doubts that they will. They will keep all the executive privilege for the next gop pres and they will keep the pat act and maybe chip a little away from the aca.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/09/obamacare-architect-lack-of-transparency-was-key-because-stupidity-of-the-american-voter-would-have-killed-obamacare/

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“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that.  In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in – you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass… Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”


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We need to see libertarians gain seats in congress so they have a say. I would even welcome a stronger green party or other third party.



What is a Libertarian?


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
starfire_xes said:
GAME OVER.  :rockon:  :smirk:


House Of Representatives voting results for 2014:

Votes for Republicans:  53,402,643
Votes for Democrats:  53,952,240

Republicans may have the edge in land and wealthy donors, but not so much in total number of voters.


Are you a pathological liar or do you think we are fools?  Your link:

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Why Americans Actually Voted For A Democratic House
BY IAN MILLHISER POSTED ON NOVEMBER 7, 2012 AT 4:21 PM UPDATED: NOVEMBER 8, 2012 AT 12:29 PM



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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Wooo, caught fail in a whopper did you zap?

BTW, a libertarian is a member of the libertarian party or belief system.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Stonehenge]
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zappaisgod said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
starfire_xes said:
GAME OVER.  :rockon:  :smirk:


House Of Representatives voting results for 2014:

Votes for Republicans:  53,402,643
Votes for Democrats:  53,952,240

Republicans may have the edge in land and wealthy donors, but not so much in total number of voters.


Are you a pathological liar or do you think we are fools?  Your link:

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Why Americans Actually Voted For A Democratic House
BY IAN MILLHISER POSTED ON NOVEMBER 7, 2012 AT 4:21 PM UPDATED: NOVEMBER 8, 2012 AT 12:29 PM



Stonehenge said:
Wooo, caught fail in a whopper did you zap?

BTW, a libertarian is a member of the libertarian party or belief system.


I do believe I may have indeed caught the commie in a flagrant lie.  I'm surprised nobody else did since it was so easy.

Thanks for exactly zero answer on my question.


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: zappaisgod]
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You're welcome


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: zappaisgod]
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For each generation, only those older than 70 favor Republicans as a group.

Luckily for them, the GOP that is, demographic based turnout favors them during midterms, and is the opposite in presidential election years.



But can we please stop pretending a majority of Americans are Republicans?


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: The Ecstatic]
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/170741/conservative-lead-social-economic-ideology-shrinking.aspx


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Are you a pathological liar or do you think we are fools?  Your link:

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Why Americans Actually Voted For A Democratic House
BY IAN MILLHISER POSTED ON NOVEMBER 7, 2012 AT 4:21 PM UPDATED: NOVEMBER 8, 2012 AT 12:29 PM



You've called me a liar about a dozen times now, and every one of those times you've been proven wrong.  In this case, finally, I made an unintentional error, and I'm glad you corrected me as I don't want to misrepresent anything.


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Re: Even though 2014 was a political beating for Democrats... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That was a gracious way to admit you were wrong, fal. Good job. Zappa could learn a thing or two from you.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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