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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20809 - 06/17/00 12:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20811 - 06/17/00 01:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Gadget the experiment seems very worthwhile
let us know how the fruiting goes.I was curious did your FOAF leave the cakes in cake form or did he case before putting in the terrerium?My FOAF has been having no success at fruiting once the cakes are fully colonized and put in the terrarium.The cakes just continue getting thicker with myceum but never fruit even after 3 to 4 weeks in chamber.He is using straight PF tek with PF strain.Do you have any suggestions .Keep us posted on your research please.


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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20812 - 06/17/00 06:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Foaf says:

quote:

I birthed the cakes as cakes and set them in my standard fruiting chamber. It shall be interesting to see what they do.


Updates to follow.

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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20813 - 06/17/00 07:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

it always cracks me up when i see soemone that spent a lil to much time and money on a growing chamber. I just use a rubbermaid container in my dark closet and i get way more shrooms then most ppl


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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20814 - 06/18/00 09:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Myc, let me start by saying my Foaf and I have the utmost respect for ya, okay :wink:
Foaf says:
quote:

Your post makes me a little defensive, not much, but a little. Your post implies that I have negligently spent an excessive amount of time and money on my grow chamber. As far as time goes, I'm guilty as charged. I have this thing about quality and craftsmanship.

With regards to spending too much money, I guess it depends on you perspective. The entire apparatus breaks down like this :


    $15 for the Air pump
    $10 for the Fish tank
    $5 for the lid (and an hour to construct)
    $5 for the thermometer
    $2 for plumbing parts

So I skipped a whole "night on the town" in exchange for building the damn thing. (lame attempt at humor)

As far as yield produced:


    A: I didn't know this was a competition
    B: I'm not interested in competing, I'm more interested in observing and sharing observations

If you note any deficiencies in my grow chamber tek implementation, let me know! I am always open to suggestions on improvement.

Also, If you have any conclusive data on whether or not finch seed cakes will fruit properly in an environment such as mine, I would be extremely interested know!

Bottom line:
I am certain that each of our implementations of grow chamber teks are functional. I am also certain that there is room for improvement in each of our teks. As with all things there are advantages and disadvantages to every tek implementation.

All I ask is that we exchange knowledge, observations and experiance, NOT condescending remarks :wink:

Peace be with you fellow shroomerite.


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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20815 - 06/18/00 09:32 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hope you don't take this the wrong way, friend.
but if you're taking 28-35 days to colnize pf jars, there's something off.
mine finish in about 10-14 on average and are fruiting by day 28.

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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20816 - 06/18/00 10:14 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hippie, not at all.

Foaf says:

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In the past all my MMGG style cakes consistantly took 28-35 days for full colonization. (6-7 batches at 8 - 12 jars each)

One problem I believe is attributed to using the tall/skinny 1/2 pint jars instead of the short/fat ones.

Other than that I am uncertain as to why I experiance 28-35 day colinization for Eq & B+ strains using MMGG BRF/Verm cakes.

    Jars are maintained @ 86F in dark enviroment
    Jars stay upright with tape over holes till groth is noted
    Once growth is noted, jars are flipped lid down and tape is removed
    Jars remain this way till colonization is complete.

I make my own spore prints/syringes (after aquiring first syringes from Ryche)
I'm fairly genorous with sport solution
I have had only 1 jar fail to contams during colonization (out of maybe 60+ jars)

I have gave consideration to finding 1/2 pint short fat jars, but did not want to invalidate prior experiance with a new variable, plus I'm cheap :wink:

I am very open to suggestions on improving colonization performance, which is why I posted my observations on the Finch seed experiment.



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Re: A comaparative study of finch bird seed vs MMGG
    #20818 - 06/21/00 01:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

A Foaf, finch seed update:

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Finch seed cakes showed Strong strandy mycileum growth at birth, after 48 hours in grow chamber all cakes were covered in the "White Fuzzy" growth like you sometimes see at the base of a mature mushroom.

At first this scared me as my only thought was contams, but 72 hours later, Fuzzy stuff has not changed color, nor odour.

As of this Mourning their are hundreds of pins starting over all the cakes :smile:

Time line summary (T = innoculation day):


    T+16 days: 100% colonized and birthed as cakes into fruiting chamber
    T+18 days: All cakes covered in white fuzzy growth
    T+20 days: pins formed

Well that's all Faof has for now, Pics of mature fruits will follow hopefully :smile:

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