HalluciNate said:

I can tell right off the bat this is Satanic.

My advice would be to stay away from Black maguk if you wish is to progress in life.

If you want solid results that help you and others, look into tai-chi and the movement of energy.

Giving up your power to someone else is not the way to go.

Whether it be to the Light Bringer (Jesus) or the Demiurge (Satan), it's just not where's it at.

Divine avatars taught that you have these abilities your self, and they did not wish to be followed in a religious way.

Find your inner power, and be careful which guides you choose.

Some of them want to see you use that power for us all, and others would have you give that power to them.

Be careful out there, alright?

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lessismore said:

You shouldn't pursue out of body/lucid dreaming either unless your soul was born to do that
you should never go further than your soul is ready for!
if you go further you are risking getting possessed, there are plenty of creatures out there that just want to suck off your energy and own your body and soul.

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I did plenty of lucid dreaming. It's fun. Never noticed any energy sucking creatures trying to possess me 

easyskunkin said:

lessismore said:

You shouldn't pursue out of body/lucid dreaming either unless your soul was born to do that
you should never go further than your soul is ready for!
if you go further you are risking getting possessed, there are plenty of creatures out there that just want to suck off your energy and own your body and soul.

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I did plenty of lucid dreaming. It's fun. Never noticed any energy sucking creatures trying to possess me 

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Yes, so because you didn't see anything they must not be there.

That's like saying I don't see any demons, but my 3rd eye is closed shut with a hammer each day from listening to death metal eating junkfood and practicing the scientific method of only believing equations / what I see in the physical world.

I believe there are many creatures out there, and your actions decide if you attract them.
They are very attracted to people who can sense them, usually people who are slightly psychic , or people who live in fear.

They know people can see them it seems.

Anyway my point is, don't rule out anything you haven't seen yet.
I've seen demons every time in mine for 20 years, multiple times a year, even though I don't fear them anymore.

So who is right / wrong / delusional?
Am I delusional because I see what you don't see?
Am I delusional because I see what the western world doesn't see?

Expect nothing.

My point is still valid, if you do LD you probably were born to do it.
Many science students are able to LD often, without seeing any creatures.
That doesn't mean creatures are not there.
It might be they only see their own perception/shut off other perceptions.
So if you have always dreamed LDs you can probably go on and continue, but it is not good making LD cults for new people who have never done it probably, some may be harmed by it.

LDs can give as bad trip as a bad trip in a real hallucinogen trip(LSD i.e.)
I had a Sleep paralysis bad trip that took me 16 years to overcome again...

lessismore said:

I believe there are many creatures out there, and your actions decide if you attract them.
They are very attracted to people who can sense them, usually people who are slightly psychic , or people who live in fear.

They know people can see them it seems.

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I must have scared them off with my Skeptic Rays 

aciddrop said:

Well I've evoked and worked with a few demons from the Goetia, his books, and a couple from the Qliphothic Spheres who don't regularly appear in any Grimoires. I don't personally know the guy but I've talked to him online a couple of times via facebook and he doesn't seem like a bad person to me. Studying and practicing go hand and hand for me, so I'd have to say everything is going well so far.

I've had more results then I can count over the years of practicing. I can say for a fact that I'm changing and becoming a better person. I used to throw curses around like they were nothing and cause alot of harm by doing so but I guess I've grown out of this as of late. I've come to a point where I don't really care about controlling the mundane anymore because I'm more focused on ascent and continued existence, instead of reincarnation.

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Icelander said:

I must have scared them off with my Skeptic Rays


Hey if he says they're there then they're there goddamnit.

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  Maybe?   Nobody will EVER know.

Seriously, does experience help create reality?

fatal222316 said:

How do these goeita or other demons appear to you when they are evoked can you see them at the time or are they energy you feel?  Do you believe these entities are as they say in the historical txt's nasty creatures or deamons out to do bad negative things, or are they maybe non living entities man has classified?

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fatal222316 said:

Sounds cool maybe I will give this system a try have tried astral projection before and failed so maybe this system can teach me, like the sounds of it, I will have to try and save some money, keep up with this thread let me know how far you have gotten.

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