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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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How stupid do you think people were back then?


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: nicechrisman]
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Not stupid ignorant yes. Looks like the blanket story is a myth http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/05/20/american-history-myths-debunked-indians-werent-defeated-white-settlers-113869.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


Was the black death in Europe genocide? :lol:


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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http://cherokeeregistry.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=407&Itemid=617


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
http://cherokeeregistry.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=407&Itemid=617


That was before the United States was founded.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


Was the black death in Europe genocide? :lol:


Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


Was the black death in Europe genocide? :lol:


The Native Americans weren't killed off and ran off their land by bacteria.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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But it clearly shows that people understood the concept of biological warfare


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


Was the black death in Europe genocide? :lol:


Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
As ignorant as thinking genocide is laughable.


Was the black death in Europe genocide? :lol:


The Native Americans weren't killed off and ran off their land by bacteria.


They basically were actually. Look I get it its easier to view history as the evil whites vs the poor helpless natives.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Guys, look how fast small pox swept across America and established the USA, The United Smallpox of America:



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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
But it clearly shows that people understood the concept of biological warfare


Ok il concede your point but it dosen't change the fact that most of the tribes were dead before the europeans even arrived due to virgin soil epidemics. The remaining survivors had skirmishes with the Europeans but they didn't have the numbers. Its always a numbers game and every piece of territory on earth has changed hands through conquest over the millennia.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Guys, look how fast small pox swept across America and established the USA, The United Smallpox of America:




That map is bullshit most of that territory was completely empty.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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You understanding of history is atrocious.


Yes, the Native Americans were victims of imperialism.

But so were Europeans from the Moors.
So were Greeks from the Persians.


Is it so difficult to accept that white people have done wrong in the past 10,000 years?


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
You understanding of history is atrocious.


Yes, the Native Americans were victims of imperialism.

But so were Europeans from the Moors.
So were Greeks from the Persians.


Is it so difficult to accept that white people have done wrong in the past 10,000 years?


I am not arguing that mistakes were not made but they mostly settled a empty continent with a small native population comparative to the Europeans.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Guys, look how fast small pox swept across America and established the USA, The United Smallpox of America:




That map is bullshit most of that territory was completely empty.


How is the map bullshit? Even if whites vastly outnumbered Natives in the west, which they did, it doesn't make the territory nonexistent.



Much of China is desert, should we send some frontiermen over there and grab it?


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Gilgamesh18 said:
The Ecstatic said:
Guys, look how fast small pox swept across America and established the USA, The United Smallpox of America:




That map is bullshit most of that territory was completely empty.


How is the map bullshit? Even if whites vastly outnumbered Natives in the west, which they did, it doesn't make the territory nonexistent.



Much of China is desert, should we send some frontiermen over there and grab it?


You can claim all the land you want but if you don't have the numbers to hold it your claim is meaningless. And why would the US want to fight China that would be really dumb.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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My neighbors rarely use their back yard. Perhaps I should go annex it.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
My neighbors rarely use their back yard. Perhaps I should go annex it.


Its not about use its about vast swaths of empty territory.


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=native+american+nations+map&ei=UTF-8&fr=chrf-yff27


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Re: How savage were the Native Americans? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=native+american+nations+map&ei=UTF-8&fr=chrf-yff27


Like I said before a hunter gatherer tribe can claim all the land they want, but if they don't have the numbers to hold it the claim is meaningless.


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