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Today's find (id request)
    #1963151 - 09/29/03 05:18 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

More mushrooms that I found while doing yardwork. I swear, for once yardwork is paying off!

A. Habitat is on a lawn in NY/NJ area.
B. Gills have a light purple color. I believe they aren't attached, but I'm not a good judge.
C. Cap is 3 inches across one way, 2 inches the other. Stem is only about 2 inches
D. Stem is solid and was very hard to seperate from the cap. Very thick as well.
E. Cap is a purplish color. Very light.
F. No sporeprint as of yet. (it's been 20 minutes)
G. No bruising as of yet
H. Smells simlar to white-button mushrooms






I'd also like to thank everyone who has been helpful to me in identifying mushrooms so far. I'm enjoying it.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Twirling]
    #1963211 - 09/29/03 05:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Probably some type of Cortinarius...not sure of the species, let me see if I can find something.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Lizard King]
    #1963248 - 09/29/03 05:46 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm already confused. Nevermind and wait for the toxicman to arrive, it could be some type of clitocybe? I need to do some more reading on both the cortinarius and the tricholoma family.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Lizard King]
    #1963272 - 09/29/03 05:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks anyway. I apperiate it. I gotta lie down for a little while because I've got a headache, but I'll check back later.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Twirling]
    #1963295 - 09/29/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

One strong possibility for those is Clitocybe nuda, the Blewit, which is a choice edible.

The other is any of many species of Cortinarius.

A spore print will tell us which. The Cortinarius species have a rusty brown spore print. The Clitocybe will have a buff or pinkish buff spore print.

Let us know.

Nice specimens, descriptions, and photos, BTW.

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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Twirling]
    #1963296 - 09/29/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This looks very like one of the species of Lepista (wood and field blewits, sometimes retained in genus Clitocybe) I find often. Lawn habitat is not typical but does not rule out. Spore print important.

If it is one of these species, then pretty nice to eat.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: pluteus]
    #1963322 - 09/29/03 06:09 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks guys! I currently have one of the caps sitting on an index card, so I'll let you know what color the print is when it's done. The cortinarius family has some posionous ones, correct?


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Twirling]
    #1964240 - 09/29/03 11:40 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, it does. The known poisonous Cortinarius are pretty much orangish rusty brown all over. The majority of Cortinarius species are of unknown edibility.

When Meinhard Moser was here in 1997, somebody asked him which Cortinarius species were edible. His response was that he wouldn't eat any of them. For those who don't know, Dr Moser was probably the world's best authority on Cortinarius until his death last year on Sep 30.

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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1965828 - 09/30/03 01:36 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Well, after a near-24 hour period of trying to get a spore print, I'm left with a very light print. I can't really tell, but I believe it's buff. It is so faded that at some angles it *looks* like it might even be rust brown. Is there any color key or way to tell it apart when it's not dark enough? I'll let it sit for awhile longer, and hopefully that will help.


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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: Twirling]
    #1966845 - 09/30/03 07:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Looks a heck of a lot like a blewit to me.

I wouldnt eat it unless you have a spore print though.


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    #1967033 - 09/30/03 08:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The spore print is pretty important for this species. It should come out a pale pinkish tan. Without a spore print - do you have a microscope and know how to use it?

Your specimens look almost exactly like the ones in various books I have, but you can't use photos for accurate mushroom identification.

If you're having trouble getting a spore print, try sprinkling a little water over the cap and put something over it to help boost the humidity. Most Cortinarius are fairly prolific spore producers, so if you only get a very pale spore print then it's probably a pale pinkish tan. Also, make sure you use sunlight instead of indoor light to evaluate the color.

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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1967239 - 09/30/03 09:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

After a few more hours, the spore print has gotten a bit stronger, and it starting to look pale pinkish tan. Just to make sure, I put a few small drops of water on the cap and now it's just sitting waiting for spore print trial #2. Unfortuntly, after going through all that handling, added moisture, and sitting around, it's not quite as appetizing. :wink: Still, I am pleased to have found an interesting specimen, and hopefully, if it turns out to be a blewit, I'll know how to identify them in the future.

BTW, I don't own a microscope. Hopefully the spore print will come out more when I can look at it in daylight (it's night time here).


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    #1967428 - 09/30/03 10:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Remember where you found those. As with many mushrooms, they will probably come up at the same spot in the future.

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Re: Today's find (id request) [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1967443 - 09/30/03 10:05 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, luckly it was right smack dab in the middle of my backyard, so I'm hopeful to see more!


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