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Is it just me, or does anyone else hate the raver culture

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yep, its just you

i see what your saying, however.  it wasn't always like that.  it used to take a fairly intellegent and open minded person to even find a rave.  now it's been dumbed down and marketed to the kids alongside rap and punk.

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man, you sould have seen it in the early 90's. it was great.back then, everyone thought electronic music was 80's crap. they didnt even know what was going on under the surface.

but like everything else that is good, the kiddy's got a hold of it.
when i started seeing raves advertised on billboards and flyers, i knew it was over. people started showing up for the drugs, not the music and people. to me, true "rave culture" ended somewhere in 1998.

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you took the words right out of my mouth.  have you seen ads for "spinheads"?  little plastic figures of djs being marketed to kids.  then there's the infamous kool-aid rave comercial where the koolaid man is behind the decks with some psy-trance in the background

i'm fortunate enough to know some folx who throw private parties that are quite reminicient of the good ol days.

PLUR! (motherfucker!)

BF 

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automan said:
man, you sould have seen it in the early 90's. it was great.back then, everyone thought electronic music was 80's crap. they didnt even know what was going on under the surface.

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During this time (80's and 90's)I was living in San Francisco between tours. We were hearing about these things called raves in abscure parts of the bay area. So one night we grabed an 1/2 ounce of pure MDMA powder and went(this was back when X came in cheap pure powder not dirty compressed pills). This was before people knew what raves were. It was a bay area thing. Well I was in awe at what I saw. It was a tribal dance festival of loving people. We gave away all our MDMA because we were so impressed and wanted to feed the energy. It was a new scene and it was very special. I had never seen that much energy before except at Dead shows. There was really something magical going on. All those people connecting.

As the years rolled on I would go to a rave every great once in awhile if I was in California at the right time(mabye 1-2 a year). I started hearing about them all over the country. The ones in San Fran got to be massive and I found it less comfortable. Now it seems that like a lot of dreams it became popular and dirty. Lots of money could be made at raves. A couple years ago I was going to college in the midwest and heard about a rave. I had to laugh. I went and it was as fake as a 3 dollar bill. Full of glow sticks,kegs,and  crystal meth.

I have no idea if the rave culture survives since I wasn't a part of it, but just a witness to it. I hear it has and hasn't. Seems like the X market has turned very dirty. Back then there wasn't pressed pills. I guess money and greed fucked that up.
At the time it seemed like it was a special thing with great possibility's.
 

shwowsh said:

I don't have anything against individuals who rave, as not everyone thrown into a stereotype are that way. That said, I was just wondering if anyone else hated all that raver crap.

The neon colored beads, going from wrist to elbow, the huge fucking wind pants, that somehow become capris (?), the glow sticks, the fake obsession with things like pacman, and super mario, the passafiers, the phrase P.L.U.R.

Just the whole fucking package.  And especially how they always hang out at the mall? does this happen anywhere else? I don't really care for the mall anyway, but there is a movie theater there, and there is this little area with benches, and a payphone, that is separated by a street going right in front of the entrance to the movie theater/arcade section of the mall. anyway, theres always ravers and "punk" kids just loitering there all the time. It's so common, that that little spot has gotten the nickname "raver island" and if you said that to people, they'd know what you're talking about.

Seriously, all the raver kids, wtf is wrong with you. I obviously have no problem with drugs (mushrooms and pot at least) and I don't have a problem with kids just being kids, but why the fuck that particular cultural lifestyle?

alright done bitchin about ravers, bye. 



singin'

...I'm not a raver, I just mush a lot...

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That whole neon colored-mushroom-printed-seizure-having-bubblegum-chewing shit was invented by rebellious little 16 year olds. And it's rarely what you encounter on the "real" forest parties up in Scandinavia. We have a very active scene here, due to us spawning a  couple of the most popular types of psytrance at date.

At clubs though, with the so called "trance" music (which is nothing but an attempt at remarketing the 1992 dance-era), that's where these so called ravers hang. Everyone I know who's active in the scene and culture takes their distance from these stupid little beings.

Swing by Sweden sometime, I'll show you how we do it at forest parties in the deep dark woods.  

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i see what your saying, however. it wasn't always like that. it used to take a fairly intellegent and open minded person to even find a rave. now it's been dumbed down and marketed to the kids alongside rap and punk.

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RunDMT said:

Swing by Sweden sometime, I'll show you how we do it at forest parties in the deep dark woods.  

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