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It seems mycobags, ziplocks, and oven bags usually end up stalling, drying out, contaminating, and whatnot.

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drying out

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first off, the substrate seems kind of loose. alot of air and gaps between grain kernels and such. Since there is no container to hold the substrate in place, it is subject to alot of movement. Everytime the bag is picked up, or even touched, the grain will move position which results in the mycelium network being torn apart. Upon constant josseling, the growth becomes stunted.

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Perhaps plastic bags would work nicely if they were innoculated than fit snugely into a showbox and into the incubator. I would like to hear peoples plastic bag success stories and opinions..

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I have had great success with Mycobags, and very low contamination rates. If by ziplocks, you are reffereing to Eatualive's (I think) Lazy Mofo tek, then I agree, it is illadvised and far inferior to mycobags. I am greatly please with my cased Mycobag substrate.