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OregonBlueShroom


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Psilocybe pelliculosa and bluing Inocybe Oregon
#18854000 - 09/17/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Found a wooded trail system today that i explored. It was fenced in with barbed wire, goes through the woods with grass trail. A ton of cow shit everywhere. There were hundreds of lobster mushrooms and Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca.
Then i found this guy in a strange spot, no grass just moss and some ground cover foliage. in the woods. But there was cow shit everywhere.
light purple gills, hygrophanous, seperatable gelatinous pellicle..
Habitat




Then i found this bluing Inocybe, the bluing is alot stronger than in the pictures. I often find Inocybe calamistrata but they are always with a long slinder stipe unlike these.
They appear to have white gill edges.




Could it be they are just really fat calamistrata? or are they another species of bluing Inocybe?
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
Edited by OregonBlueShroom (09/17/13 08:07 PM)
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#18854041 - 09/17/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your "semilanceata" would make more sense as a pelliculosa. Insofar as I know no active Inocybe grows in our state. Very cool finds!
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OregonBlueShroom


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I thought about pelliculosa too because of where it was found, no grass.. but i figured maybe the mass amount of cow shit around made up for it Either way I am happy to find it.
And i wouldnt want to try an active Inocybe anyways. But the bluing inocybes are always fun to find. Inocybe calamistrata is one of my favorites to find and enjoy looking at the bluing but i think these may be another species.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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jet li
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#18854457 - 09/17/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think pelliculosa as well.
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: jet li]
#18854493 - 09/17/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
jet li said: I think pelliculosa as well.
I agree that Inocybe doesn't look like I.calamistrata.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#18854965 - 09/17/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I went back to the area and checked very thoroughly for any more. I looked in the surrounding area for over 2 hours and did not find another. I guess i got very lucky to find this tiny mushroom in my long trek.
A bit more about the habitat, it does not fit semilanceata habitat at all. There is cow shit throughout the area but none anywhere close to the spot where the psilo was found. Its all trees/ferns/forest type area. So ill call it pelliculosa, This is my first psilocybe find of the year and my first time finding pelliculosa so im happy
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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Blue-FunGuy
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#18855455 - 09/17/13 08:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#18855529 - 09/17/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think your Inocybe is in the I. calamistrata group. It is unusually chunky. Check the odor, check for red staining where bruised, and also check for blue staining where bruised.
It would also be cool to have a pic of the spores. Species in the I. calamistrata group have smooth spores that are shaped like beans.
Looks like it is growing with Abies, correct?
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18855542 - 09/17/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It has a very strong odor, not really pleasant. almost chemically and makes me sick to smell it.
There is reddish/brownish staining on the cap and base of the stem.
The blue seems to be already there along the stem base, not staining stronger after picking/handling.
Yes there was douglas fir around the area.
I will spore print and attempt to get a picture of the spores soon but my microscope only works with low magification.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
Edited by OregonBlueShroom (09/17/13 09:15 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#18855551 - 09/17/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No need to take a pic of the spores, you can just look at them and describe what you see.
Would you classify the odor as fishy?
Since it stained red where bruised, you probably have Inocybe hirsuta var. maxima.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18855560 - 09/17/13 09:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes the smell is kind of fishy, and very strong.
Thanks for the help Alan.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: OregonBlueShroom]
#18855585 - 09/17/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fishy smells are common in the Inocybe calamistrata group.
Recent research by Brandon Matheny says that this clade is not toxic or psychoactive. I guess it might be edible???
The paper is online, you can google for it. I think it is from 2013.
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OregonBlueShroom


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Re: Another semilanceata and bluing Inocybe Oregon [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18856578 - 09/18/13 01:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont think I would want to try, the bluing Inocybes are cool to look at but smell bad and dont seem very appetizing.
I already got more chants, lobsters, and COTW than i can eat so ill stick with those for now. Thanks again for the info Alan.
-------------------- Favorite quote: I want to know if they are active and magic or not. And if they are not active, can i pick them before they are active and then they will become active or do they have to grow till they activate?
    
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