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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: danlennon3] * 1
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How long did the effects last and how long did it take to come on?


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: The_Aviator]
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dan does mxe i think he'd know the differenec if it was that


i dunno i think most RC analogues have different dosages than ket so if it tasted like ket and was a normal K length then it was prolly just K





btw ur all addicted to mxe i was gonna flush mine down the toilet and take a video to make people mad but just traded it instead if i didnt get a good offer to trade it i woulda rather just flushed it tho ur all addicted


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Sheekle]
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I took a hit of MXE once and lost my job, my wife, and my kids.

Tread with extreme caution, OP

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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Nimpo]
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Year-old thread :lolwut:


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Nimpo]
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Nimpo said:
I took a hit of MXE once and lost my job, my wife, and my kids.

Tread with extreme caution, OP


u might think its funny but that happens to some people, heres a story of one guys personal account. dont be an mxe victim it allures u in so innocently


'I lost the love of my life, a three year relationship, over Methoxetamine addiction. It sounds too awful to be true, yet it happened. There was one point where I was sitting home, alone, after she had moved out, after I had returned my engagement ring. There was no furniture - a single light bulb provided vision. I had emptied three 35 lb tanks of nitrous oxide, had done over 12 grams of MXE in 7 days, and I looked at my stash. Nine grams left. I have never, ever, EVER, done this before; but I stood up, and dumped the remainder of my methoxetamine into the toilet. I raised my arms in triumph! It was too thrilling to dictate by word. Truly. That was in early June, 2011. Guess what? It's now September 27th (the 2-year anniversary of my friend's death-by-speadball) and I've written this whole post through squinted eyes and behind 575mg MXE plugged. THAT is addiction. THIS is addiction. I want to dissociate; I want to crumble, and I say this: Methoxethamine has raped from me my vitality. I have been left wilted. Heroin could never have devastated me so thoroughly.

I am fearful of being too expansive here. Yet, I have been lost in the "triangle" for a long while now. Methoxethamine is akin to diamorphine; it is at once beautiful and devastating. Responsible use yields promise, but I have demonstrated my incapacity for responsibility over the years."


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
MXE definitely tastes like K but something about it is a little sweeter, IMO. Or maybe I'm biased because I like it more, hard to say. :strokebeard3:


I think the two taste MUCH MUCH different and nothing else tastes similar to MXE and ketamine as far as I know... I have not tried any other dissociatives so something else could very well taste the same as ketamine, and thats what im trying to figure out.


The_Aviator said:
How long did the effects last and how long did it take to come on?


It was hard to say but definitely within 5-10 minutes. Time dilation was absolutely mind-blowing...what was actually a minute felt like an ETERNITY! and this feeling of eternity just kept hitting in waves, HARD! The entire experience lasted over an hour, probably closer to 2... But we took a few nice doses over an hour span, so that explains the duration!


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said:
I've written this whole post through squinted eyes and behind 575mg MXE plugged.


The story is a nightmare but I literally could not hold a straight face after that line and started laughing.

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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Nimpo]
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its kaled tolerance


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"Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods
"I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago
"you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard
"The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist
"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
"or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees

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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Sheekle]
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Dood im way out, im talkin way out. Hey now. crunk










But yeah, that was pretty :woah: at the end there, especially considering it seems to be true.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Synthe] * 1
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That's not the substance, it's the user. Anything can be majorly addictive, but with substances with high addiction potential you have to be careful. When you're not careful, things like that happen to your life. It's certainly not the fault of the substance.

inb4 someone jumps on me about how MXE is addictive, I know full well it is. So are opiates and I've seen how those can devastate someone yet I have no problem using them without them wrecking my life. I maintain that while certain substances have a very high addiction potential, in the end it comes down to the user and their level of self control.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
its the drugs fault not mine im addiceed cant help it


k.


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"Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods
"I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago
"you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard
"The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist
"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
"or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees

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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: teamkiller] * 1
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teamkiller said:
You're correct. I was thinking of stuff i read on bluelight.

I just saw some people in chatroom say mxe was safer than ketamine.

I dunno.  I realize there is no reason to argue.  I'm being a worrier, and i just won't do it.

Just saying, ketamine is pretty much the safest mind altering chemical there is, on par with weed.  I think there are more clinical reports of weed causing mental illness than ketamine.

Even with 50 years of heavy use and study all across the world, they still don't understand all of ketamine's mechanism of action, or long term effects on the brain.

Look at 2ci vs 2ce
amt-vs 5-meo-amt
2c-t-7 vs the others.

Something this different that ketamine, personally i'm not trusting random theory, when professionals who do a shit ton of testing still wind up wrong a lot.

I think its pretty morally irresponsible to imply MXE is in anyway safe, other than it probably won't give you cardiac or respiratory problems.
No one is doing cognitive testing of people using it as far as i know, its pretty well known anecdotally people taking drugs don't realize how its effecting them.  Even a slight long term change in behavior or cognition would be significant.

I dunno, brock out dudes whatever i dun care.



Dode I don't agree with you, you are wrong. I also thought Wiccan breaking down the molecule was pretty unbiased and really interesting.

Go watch the Drugs Inc on K.  If one guy can get fucked up that bad from it isn't that one anecdotal case enough to prove that it is at the very least potentially harmful?  I've never heard of anyone requiring a major surgery because of overboard marijuana usage.


I know that your exchange with Wiccan happened a long time ago but this thread recently got bumped. I just wanted to let it be know to anyone that reads through this thread that K is no where near as safe as jane. For yuh know harm reduction purposes and what not. :hatsoff:


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Lizard Eyes] * 1
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Yeah its very hard for something to be as safe as marijuana.  The level of ketamine usage you have to do in order to get bladder problems is incredibly excessive though. 

If you're doing that much ketamine i mean honestly you know you're a drug addict, and should accept or expect some sort of repercussions. 

I'm not bullshitting about ketamine's safety profile though.  Like i said a year ago its incredibly well studied, and how many recreational drugs do you know of that are used in every country daily to put people into comas, or anesthetize babies? 

This thread made me realize what a hypocrite wiccan seeker is, and that he has no idea what he's talking about.  If you go through his huge post history, for many years he would warn people about the dangers of dissociatives, and then he finally tries something as (no offense) crappy as MXE and suddenly he's having divine spiritual revelations.  I'm friends with quite a few dissociative users on here, and none of us who are actually dedicated to them proselytize as much as him.

If you want to get real knowledge of about dissociatives the best person to talk to is probably "The_ghost".  That dude's usage almost scares me and yet still he manages to remain functional.

edit: MXE tastes nothing like K IMO.  I've heard tilamine burns horrible and tastes like shit so you would definitely taste a difference.  I've only smoked pcp but the smell and taste was so strong i would have to imagine snorted would also be pretty different than ketamine.
In my experience mxe has alot more bitter chemical taste to it than ketamine. Alot sharper feeling in the nose.

Widely reported is ketamine's "medically"  taste and smell and i would totally agree with that.  If it reminds you abstractly of how a clean hospital would taste, you're on the right track. 

Also, i've done a ton of drugs nasally, so i may be less sensitive than most, but in my experience ketamine basically has no burn, and an almost pleasant but also gross and metallic taste. It has a component of tasting like tap water or air.  Also it has a component of tasting like sugar if sugar wasn't sweet.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: teamkiller]
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:nodofunderstanding:

Alright I can agree with you on that then.  I didn't know it was actually used medically on humans, I thought it was just restricted to horses. And as far as wiccans post goes. He could be completely full of shit.  My knowledge of chemistry doesn't extend much further than 11th grade Chem and your average drug using internet/errowid/shroomery user.:justdontknow:. I was just commenting that I thought it was really interesting that he can break down a molecule and understand where it goes and what parts of the body it's effecting.  Makes me want to study more chemistry myself.  Because I can read a million peoples explanations of what's happening but If I don't understand the fundamentals behind it then it goes right over my head. 


I'm not really looking to get into dissociatives but I may stop by and read some the_ghost posts just for fun.  But K, and MXE are both on my try if I get a chance but don't specifically seek out list. :thumbup:


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: Lizard Eyes]
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also since last year they discovered ketamine actually has some very interesting and great neuro-generative effects in the brain

^u^

pretty much the opposite of what they thought. 

I just want to qualify a little: I'm coming on strong in this thread because i am a very big worrier.  I don't fuck with RCs and it scares me how willy nilly people are with them.  Its very emotional for me and so I'm definitely not arguing from a neutral point of view.

pharmacology is incredibly complicated.  In the real world no one can determine a drug's effects by theory alone.  Like i just mentioned after 50 years of constant use and study they just found something new and startling about ketamine.  Next year they could discover it makes you autistic.  I'd much rather go with something with a long history of use then no history of use.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: teamkiller]
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dude i've literally been lurking this site for over 5 years and i had to make an account to call you a cunt for calling mxe crappy. it is the greatest substance ever to grace humanity and you are a god damn fool.

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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: sjofn]
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:rofl:


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: danlennon3]
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I am bumping this old thread because lets face it this is going to remain an important question for us. Have we learned anything new about MXE and its safety profile?

I tried it for the first time today but after reading this thread I don't think I will do it again.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: LeeHarvOz]
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Mxe is amazing.


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Re: Methoxetamine (MXE) toxicity and dangers? [Re: dawdgamn]
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dawdgamn said:
Mxe is amazing.


how much k, pcp, dxm have you tried for comparison's sake?


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