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The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE (+15mg +30mg)
    #14428379 - 05/10/11 05:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Pub, I'm considering taking a dosage of the dissociative anesthetic Methoxetamine, a substance similar to Ketamine but lasting for hours.

I got my shit in order for the day, I can fold without having to do stuff under the influence.

These amounts are all tried and true for me with some wiggle room so I will let Her Royal Highness The Pub decide on my fate.

Feel out your intuition and choose what you feel would be best. Poll runs for 1 hour, then the majority has it.


EDIT:  the trip report is 15 posts down.

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How much would you take in my case?
Users may choose only one (18 total votes)
No man, today is NOT the day.
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2 11%
20mg. Surely you want to hook up to the Dreamers Internet again
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1 6%
30mg. The intoxicating power of half a fifth of vodka really ought to do it, no?
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4 22%
40mg. Anything less than the best is a felony.
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2 11%
I'd go a bit beyond the trodden path if I were you.. Higher.
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6 33%
STAL
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3 17%
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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428387 - 05/10/11 06:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I chose beyond the trodden path simply because you have survived horrendous shit as of late and you deserve a trip through the universe :thumbup:

Enjoy your day!


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Fungal-one]
    #14428391 - 05/10/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I thought you had me on ignore :crankey:

Kidding, thanks man :hug:


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428399 - 05/10/11 06:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Have you tried MXE with a traditional psych like LSD?  :aweshift:  I dosed when I perceived the peak of the tab of acid and it got all kinds of epic weird.


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428400 - 05/10/11 06:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If you feel you have fully recovered, I think Fungal-one is right on the money.
Enjoy :rockon:


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14428405 - 05/10/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

That sounds like it might get psych ward weird Maestro, I feel that the only adjunct I should consider is a benzo on a high dose, perhaps an MXE booster, anmd maybe a little weed if the mental lags too far behind the physical.

What did you vote?


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: derpif]
    #14428409 - 05/10/11 06:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I didnt feel I had fully recovered, I wouldnt be doing this. :thumbup:


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428418 - 05/10/11 06:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I voted 40mg.

It did feel pretty fuckin manic but I dosed low on the acid.


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428453 - 05/10/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My friend just took 80+mg her first time a few hours ago and she's someone that gets hit hard with drugs.

Kick it up a notch, bam!


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14428459 - 05/10/11 06:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Manic :smile2:


Yeah, seriously, folks underestimate that, they don't know what its like.

Well.. imagine passing out into this guys, and having it be your universe for a few eternities:



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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428472 - 05/10/11 06:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've had real manic episodes, a little manic drug giggling and weird feeling body doesn't scare me.  I like goin far out there.  I've dosed DXM and LSD simultaneously before(higher dose of LSD) so I had a fairly good idea of what I was getting myself into, MXE was a gentler combo.


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: Asante]
    #14428480 - 05/10/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

just wanted to say i like these threads you've been doing

also out of curiosity from an admins perspective have you noticed any trends at all from these.  Like have you wielded the ability to change an entire days worth of posts/threads based on just 1 or 2 of your own, like setting a path by crafting carefully planned threads using warlock magic?


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Re: What Would The Pub Do? (60 minutes and counting) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14428502 - 05/10/11 06:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

No warlock majic here, just hunting for key logs here. Butterfly effect yo, float like a butterfly sting like a bee :naughty:

Guys so you know, I won't be using Capitalism, Socialism, Democracy or Fascism in determining my dose, I'm going to involve all of you in the decision using the principles of Sociocracy where STAL is a blank vote.


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Sociocracy is a system of governance, using consent-based decision making among equivalent individuals and an organizational structure based on cybernetic principles.[1] The most recent implementation of sociocracy by Gerard Endenburg, also known as Circular Organizing, was developed as a new tool for governance of private enterprise, but has been adopted in many different kinds of organizations including public, private, non-profit and community organizations as well as professional associations.




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The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: Asante]
    #14428569 - 05/10/11 07:10 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

OK, the hour has elapsed, lets see the results!


2 x  0mg =  0mg
1 x 20mg = 20mg
4 x 30mg =120mg
2 x 40mg = 80mg
6 x[50mg]=300mg
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15 x vote= 520mg
: 15 voters
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MXE Dose = 35mg


The Pub has spoken! Thank you for your verdict, I know what to do now! :rainbowcloud:

And guess what, by some well planned coincidence my stomach happens to be empty now the 1 hour vote is over, ready for the gulp after the sublingual administration :smile2:


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: Asante]
    #14428673 - 05/10/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

TRIP REPORT:
35mg Methoxetamine
15mg Methoxetamine
30mg Methoxetamine



After Pub community decision I weighed out 35mg Methoxetamine HCl. T+ 00:00h = 15:30h local time


T+ 00:00h Took 35mg MXE under my tongue, bitter/salty.

T+ 00:15h Swallowed the mucus containing traces of MXE on an empty stomach, considerable intoxication already, retreating to bed.

T+ 01:15h Picture yourself being drunk as a skunk, and yet you are clearheded. Picture yourself lying on a beach, completely relaxed, daydreaming while the sun shines upon you. Very euphoric. Carefree.  Thats about what lying in my bed in darkness feels like. Bluelighters liken it to Christmas spirit, to me, now, its a summer holiday feeling. I can see troubled people using this as an escape drug, you are dissociated away from your life smack in the middle of it. Eating a sandwich and a banana, the banana is ridiculously fruity tasting. My motor skills are utterly FUCKED. I can barely walk :rotfl: I'm obliterated here. If it was drunk I'd be well past 12 glasses... and rising. About half an hour of ascent more to go. BRING IT ON! Constantly preoccupied with thoughs about my Life from all possible angles, good thoughts. Feeling great, mind is all over the place, anesthetic feeling in the teeth and skin, but not problematic. Sore shoulder muscles from heavy lifting fully anesthetized. Its a clear anesthetic/psychedelic mindspace. Oops, its now T+ 01:30, time to put this jolly zombiefied mayhem to bed.

T+ 02:15h I accessed what I call "The Dreamers Internet" where I in the dissociated MXE state connect with someone who is dreaming. I was connected to someone who needed help with an issue. Its private so none of your business guys.. Sounds pretty delusional huh :awesomenod: The connection is such that I hear their thoughts focus as a line of dialogue, on the other end I manifest in the dream in a way that is appropriate. Its a blind call, its basically "put me through to someone where there is mutual benefit". LOL if I got a mental health screening now on MXE I'd probably go in the books as a schizophiliac :birthday: MXE breaks open a level where this feels pretty real, though rationally its of course my own twilight dreamstate, serving my own psychological processing like any dreamstate. Its awesome though, and the knowledge that at higher dosage this meta-reality will replace my own is an intriguing but intimidating one. Physically I'm much less messed up but mentally its more psychedelic now. The turning point mind/body was like clockwork around 2 hours in. The meal helped. Moving around prompts your heart rate substantially, this is a sit still/lie down drug.  Though, its also a wander the streets naked and punch a hole in a fence to escape the cops kind of drug :lol: This is exctly how I picture a moderate dose of PCP to be like, judging from descriotions and the obligatory youtube vids. Loopiness is unavoidable, batshit craziness an option.If my inability to operate heavy equipment doesnt impair the use of my dick I'm going to have a pee and then back to bed for more dissociative entheogenica.

T+ 03:00h One very striking aspect of the state I'm in now is that I'm almost completely void of social inhibitions. I could walk out the door naked, hop on the hood of my neighbor's car and masturbate, greeting passers by and not give a FUCK emotionally.  My rationality tells me thats a really bad idea., nor do I feel the urge, but my emotrional restraint is practicall obliterated. This can cause all sorts of bad calls.  Its almost sociopathic, its an ABSENCE of social restraint. Some braincenters are obviously more anestethized than others. I can totally see the similar PCP being used as a catalyst to gang violence. I'm adding a small joint of Indica weed to enhance the mental effects. *takes five deep breaths before diving under*

T+ 04:00h I decided to take +15mg sublingually. State is steady and can benefit from shaking things up again. :yesnod:

T+ 04:15h And down le hatch it goes! Immediately feeling emerging effects, I will probably retreat to bed in 15min or so.

T+ 05:00h (+1h of boost) I'm feeling so :awecid: there should be a law! No wait, LEGALIZE! Euphoria is there in spades, mounting, my mind twisting and coiling making fantasy and real life considerations merge. Going up :rockon:
OH F:omgz:CK I'M FEELING SO F:omgz:CKING COMFORTABLE!
Serious business guys, get yours before they WILL make a law. My mind, my body.. deep peace with my spirit smiling on :smile: Its not just :awesomenod:  my mind is very active, preoccupied withg the journey of my life past, present and future. If this drug didnt have negative sides when wrongly used, it'd be a good contender for Huxley's Soma. I understand people getting psychological addiction issues with this. Wow. That 15 was right on the mark!

T+ 06:00h (+2h after boost) Excellent, but still very much in my body/mind. An +30mg I hold sublingual right now might fix that, bringing the grand total so far on 80mg. Though very euphoric, it takes addition of a serious dose to get serious results :smile:

T+ 08:00h (+4h +2h) Truly, TRULY epic... and its so profoundly personal I can share none of it :yesnod: A very deep communion with my innermost self. Profoundly spiritual. Utterly relevant. Overwhelmingly strong, yet there is no fear in my heart. It is Good. I am gobsmacked and in awe.

T+ 11:00h (+7h + 5h) just cooked a meal and ate it. I'm still quite under the influence of the dissociative anesthetic but now its very stable and calm. I feel about 5-6 beers in in terms of general degree of intoxication. Drinking a half cup of gourmet coffee since I figure I'll be up for a bit longer. The session was utterly amazing!  I have the feeling that a minimum of a month between sessions is prudent, if not more, there was no tolerance noticed - in fact I felt I was a lot stronger than last month at comparative doses, or at least depthwise.

What an AMAZINGLY INTENSE drug! At the hight of it you're down for the count, as if drinking a suicidal amount of booze, and yet you're clearheaded. Then the outrageous stuff starts happening. Inner dialogue steps up, your thoughts start flowing in twisted patterns, closed eye visuals are not very frequent but either dreamlike in realism, or abstract in a kind of anime way, very Daturalike but less vivid. The ascent is nonlinear and takes place over 2 hours with often 2 spurts, one 00:30-01:00h and one 01:30-02:00h. the most magical time is roughly between 00:45-02:30h after a modest sublingual dose, but it all stretches out when doses are higher or when you stack dose on dose. Descent starts roughly 4 hours after and carriues on some hours more. 2 hours in is a good boosting time if you want to continue the ascent, 4 hours in works well for initiating a new one, at least in modest doses. I felt that 15mg --2h--> 30mg was a lot like 45mg that just took 4 hours to come on, its much more additive than when doing this with lets say shrooms.

I am prone to redosing sprees with MDMA-type drugs. I was worried in that regard about Methoxetamine but I'm happy to report that once you had an Ultimate experience of sorts, theres no harsh comedown or any urge to redose, at least now for me.

It was very enjoyable and deeply spiritual in nature. I didnt even hole at the 3rd dose but oh my was it intense and deep.

The heartrate adjustment when moving around got a LOT better with the subsequent boosts, the heart adjusts to the thing MXE does to it in the first dose and then is better prepared for a next dose.

As to side effects this held true too to an extent, so starting with a not-too-high initial dose and then stacking on top of it seems the way to go.

Most annoying side effect was sound-activated tinnitus, I can imagine this nuisance being a real bother in a club with loud music.

This is not a club drug, a bit too much and it puts you on your ass (or the floor) and you get way loopy.

25 years ago I started my drug career with inhaling Ether. Coming up on 30mg I had great huffing nostalgia by using the corner of my sheet as a faux huffing hanky, the comeup of strong MXE is SO MUCH LIKE ETHER its unbelievable. It does have nitrous sparkles but all in all I'd say it resembles ether most.

This was SO SPIRITUAL! I did a lot of spiritual work, including shooting prayers and blessings in all directions, merging with inorganic parts of the universe, surfed the Dreamers Internet, communicated with my subconscious, allowing it to sit in God's chair, went halfway delusional, manic, megalomanic the whole DSM while keeping the cheer :awesome: felt great, struggled to remain conscious, in my body, out of body, reflected on my life, saw a bigger picture, the works!

T+ 12:00h (+8h +6h) Im now clearly in the descent, about 4-5 drinks in, feeling like coming to your senses after heavy drinking, yet with a smile and good spirits.  Light dull headache. Still a bit of tinnitus. All in all feeling a bit tired but fine :smile:  The 1/2 cup coffee was a good addition.
I'm very happoy with all this, what a great substance :smile2:


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: Asante]
    #14428959 - 05/10/11 09:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

sounds fun :awecid:


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: Pscientist]
    #14428964 - 05/10/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Good vibes brother :hamletmonkey:


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14429035 - 05/10/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i did 45mg last night as my highest dose... it got weird.  At one point I felt almost sober... but kinda insane at the same time.  I'm prob gonna stick to lower doses now and mainly mixed with psychs.


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: bbl337]
    #14429043 - 05/10/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i did 45mg last night as my highest dose... it got weird.  At one point I felt almost sober... but kinda insane at the same time.  I'm prob gonna stick to lower doses now and mainly mixed with psychs.




That was kind of the feeling I had.  I was crawling on the edge of the universe and then turned my tunes off and got up to see what was goin on in the kitchen and had a perfectly lucid conversation.  Then some weird mania-like feelings.  Was still a worthwhile experience.


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Re: The Pub Has Spoken: 35mg MXE [Re: bbl337]
    #14429097 - 05/10/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

low doses are better imo, at least from what I can tell.  Not a fan of the whole feeling of mania.


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