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Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub
    #14199876 - 03/28/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A friend just got some in the mail and is thinking of doing a test run of 20mg insufflated. I've read doses as small at 12mg can deliver a punch.

Anyone in the Pub have experiences with MXE or know of any adverse reactions? (Aside from the person who IV'd with MDAI).

I've diligently read up on it at Bluelight, Erowid, and Reddit.

The majority of people seem to like it immensely, though there are a few people who are discontent with it - unhappy with the weirdness and occasional physical side effects.

In case someone hasn't read Hamilton's article yet: http://www.viceland.com/int/v18n2/htdocs/interview-with-ketamine-chemist-704.php


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14199912 - 03/28/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i'll probably try it sometime

i tried mephedrone over the weekend

really pissed me off, these rc's are kinda lame imo


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14199933 - 03/28/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"the shine.
The translucent shine!

God came down and left some parables yo."

And another recent report told of a guy who cleaned his shower for an hour, had an amazing time, and became so sexually aroused from cleaning that he would have cummed if he had not came earlier.

Either this stuff is wacky jacky or the guys writing positive reports are working with the vendors.

P.S. I loved mephedrone, but I stopped due to addiction and heart concerns


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14199952 - 03/28/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had 50mg of it laying around, a friend took all 50 in about 30 minutes.  He said he felt effects of dysphoria and anger and was unlike k.  Coulda been my source, I unno, I'll probably try it myself in the future, but it's not too high on my "to do" list.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14199954 - 03/28/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Way prefer methoxetamine to ketamine ATM. It's an absoloutely amazing chemical. 20mg is a pretty low dose though. 150~200mg is needed for the full deal IMO but that's definetly not for the dissociative naieve or for a first go.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14199959 - 03/28/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

my experience was.. weird

like i started off taking a 50 mg bump

felt cool for like 10 minutes

took a 100 mg bump, felt cool for like 15 minutes

then i just started taking 150mg bumps every 10-15 minutes for about an hour.

the fucking shit wears off literally in 5-10 minutes, even when i was sober beforehand. it pissed me off. i never tried parachuting it, so i guess i'll try that next time, see if that offers any better results, but i just felt so worthless sitting there crushing up line after line. then i tried to smoke some 018 and it just would NOT get me high, idk what the hell was going on, i smoked like 5 bowls and didnt feel a thing. i also took Tramadol so I think that may have somehow caused the effects of the other drugs to lessen, like I injested so many things and didn't feel a fucking thing and got pissed off and went to sleep.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: pfxtc]
    #14199967 - 03/28/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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pfxtc said:
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my experience was.. weird

like i started off taking a 50 mg bump

felt cool for like 10 minutes

took a 100 mg bump, felt cool for like 15 minutes

then i just started taking 150mg bumps every 10-15 minutes for about an hour.

the fucking shit wears off literally in 5-10 minutes, even when i was sober beforehand. it pissed me off. i never tried parachuting it, so i guess i'll try that next time, see if that offers any better results, but i just felt so worthless sitting there crushing up line after line. then i tried to smoke some 018 and it just would NOT get me high, idk what the hell was going on, i smoked like 5 bowls and didnt feel a thing. i also took Tramadol so I think that may have somehow caused the effects of the other drugs to lessen, like I injested so many things and didn't feel a fucking thing and got pissed off and went to sleep.




There is almost no way what you took was methoxetamine IMO.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14199973 - 03/28/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i never said it was

i said it was mephedrone.


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: pfxtc]
    #14199978 - 03/28/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh ok, NP :tongue:


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14200294 - 03/28/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Doesn't sound at all like mephedrone either.

I've ton a smack ton of amphetamines and MDxx compounds, and mephedrone was by far one of the most euphoric and intense drugs I've done; rapid breathing, dancing, pupils the size of saucers, bruxia, trisma, the whole 69 yards.

You should have a) felt more, and b) experienced the effects for much longer.

Methylone (MBDB) has a short peak and is much more mild - possibly that? Who knows.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14200315 - 03/28/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well the bag said 4mmc on it, and the guy who recommended the seller said it was good or whatever...

I mean I got HARDCORE teeth clenching, my pupils didnt change at all (which was weird) and basically felt like I was rolling absolute nuts for 10-20 minutes... but this was on 150 mg.. shoulda lasted longer no?


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Young male going by the name "Bassfreak" entered Worcester General complaining of a sharp pain in his buttock region after attending EDM event. Attending physician considered a possible diagnosis of acute rave anus, but upon further investigation it was determined there was nothing cute about patient's anus.

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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: pfxtc]
    #14200481 - 03/28/11 09:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea I would think so, then again these compounds are seemingly unpredictable. If you have cross tolerance with amphetamines I'm sure that can affect cathinones as well.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14200496 - 03/28/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Folks be name-dropping the Shroomery at DMT-Nexus:

[MXE]

"It's too easy to come back to and hit again, without real need to. And there is apparently a very fine line between no increased effects and borderline psychosis. I read a report on shroomery the other day where someone 'holed' out and it sounded borderline tempting/scary. I've read here the 60mg doses and thought it'd be pretty safe."


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14200813 - 03/28/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know that no one here is a chemist, but what are the chances of ending up with neurotoxic impurities, as was the case with MPPP?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPPP


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14200928 - 03/28/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

+/- 8mg insufflated as pre-test for allergies or contraindications.

Very mild opiate-like effects are present after 10 minutes.

I'll keep updating my experience here tonight if anyone is interested?


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14201413 - 03/28/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

+12mg

Stuff is awesome even at this small dose.

I'm going back to the experience, but I'll post a full report later - assuming I finish this 60mg.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: The Whale]
    #14201655 - 03/29/11 12:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've been researching with mxe for a while now. I'm still not sure if I like it or dislike it, or even what it exactly does to me. I don't like it at high doses, I get extremely manic. Prefer it mellow.

I shared a few bumps after a night of moderate drinking with a few buddies and one of the non-participants present asked "so what exactly does it do to you?". We all just kind of looked at each other. I said that it's like weed in the way that is spaces you out and changes your headspace, but it's not anything like weed really. Couldn't come up with anything more concrete.

I think the thing I most enjoy is the opiate warmth of the comedown, it's bliss.:pipesmoke:

Gone through about a gram mostly by myself over two months. Will use up my last ~40mg tonight and decide if I will order more. It's pretty fuckin cheap for the potency.

Weird question perhaps, but: what exactly does mxe do to you? :strokebeard:


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: lewisplanthead]
    #14202551 - 03/29/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why are you snorting it and not taking it sublingually? As far as I read it, holding it under the tongue is the preferred ROA.

Thats one of the superior properties Methoxethamine has over Ketamine. Most people don't want to plug, and some people are really put off by the notion of snorting any drug. Putting it under the tongue doesnt carry the same stigma.

And the longer duration, not in-and-out like Ket, not going on for miles and miles like PCP, a nifty 2-4 hours.

Quote:

Weird question perhaps, but: what exactly does mxe do to you? :strokebeard:




I read a cop quote that said about PCP: "its basically like being high on all drugs at once". Actually thats not too far off.



MXE, like Ketamine, is a PCP analog. Theres no mitigating "kinda" in there, if you use these kinds of drugs you are using PCP analogs.

So what does it do?

Its a dissociative, in high doses it robs consciousness from your senses creating a void. Your brain then fills this void with meaning.

To return to the :cop: quote..

In low doses it gives a weed like high.
In somewhat higher doses it is not unlike being drunk
It has hallucinogenic activities not unlike a psychedelic
Theres reality displacement like datura
There tends to be an anxiolytic effect like with benzos and barbs.
It is a DARI causing a stimulant effect
Theres some opiate like narcotic analgesic effects
There are anesthetic qualities like huff drugs.

So, the cop was pretty spot on with his casual descriptor of the effects of drugs from this class as "like being high on all drugs at once".

Whats important to know about this drug is that you can essentially "black out" on a high dose and with your rational mind suspended doing thangs in the real world. Also important is that you can end up in a redosing loop, often while your judgement is impaired.

PCP analogs arent the demon drugs people make them out to be, not by far, but in high doses you need a sitter.

Cops fear this drug class like no other, because people quite high on them are completely impervious to intimidation tactics, genuinely unafraid and unpredictable and typically oblivious to intense pain, sometimes even that of pepperspray or broken bones.

You can have ungodly bad trips on PCP analogs, but typically on a high dose you're not unlike a zombie - a grinning, rather awesome befuddled zombie shuffling around bumping into things, approaching people chuckling like a maniac, who walks up to cops and states they dont like their profession or attitude one bit, and who spend hours figuring out their lighter in a state of confusional manic bliss.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: Asante]
    #14202577 - 03/29/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why are you snorting it and not taking it sublingually?





I did a lot of reading before I tried it and got the same idea. I began my experiments with sublingual only admin and then would end up snorting when I was already high. I can't say i've noticed a difference in effect between the two admins but I could be wrong, in fact most subjective evidence online points to me being wrong. I think I just get a kick out of putting things in my nose.

Interesting post regarding the effects of mxe, it really does seem like a "jack of all trades" substance like you say. :strokebeard:

I'll try sublingual next, can't go too far as I have to show some people around my house in a bit :lolsy: student life.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: lewisplanthead]
    #14202586 - 03/29/11 07:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This is one of the few research chemicals that I have a deep desire to experiment with. It seems very interesting. I love ketamine and the duration and effects of this chemical are very intriguing.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: lewisplanthead]
    #14202613 - 03/29/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: Asante]
    #14202617 - 03/29/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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PCP analogs arent the demon drugs people make them out to be, not by far, but in high doses you need a sitter.




I have a friend who gets up and walks around and does all kinds of crazy shit on dissociatives personally I never had a problem with this, I just lie there until I'm done. I do however always take the cautionary procedure of hiding my drugs while I'm high because I can, at times be forced to redose by the dissociative "god". :lol:

MXE is very different from other dissociatives I've done though I've never tried PCP, it lasts a lot longer than 2-4hrs IME more like 8-10. This consists of two distinctly different phases, in the first 4 hrs I am totally wacked out no idea what's going on and the second 4 hours is always an experience of god consciousness. It's exactly what I'd imagine the state of "samadhi" to be like. This second four hour phase reliably produces the most deeply peaceful effects I've ever had from any chemical. That's the part of MXE that sets it apart from other dissociatives, the first 4 hours is relatively similar but much more intense and lucid "awake", the second 4 is totally unlike any effect I've known.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: Asante]
    #14202675 - 03/29/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'll try sublingual next, can't go too far as I have to show some people around my house in a bit









DON'T. Please.




haha, don't worry I won't be putting bad publicity on this compound. I only dance just above threshold with mxe. I couldn't be worse than the previous occupants who showed me around last year if I tried.

Edit: I was an informative and relatively sober host. The folks who came to look around were actually pretty cool! Crisis averted :pipesmoke:


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: lewisplanthead]
    #14202750 - 03/29/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i really like mxe, but i've decided that i don't like it much by itself. for me it produces tinges of paranoia and mania. i would rather have ketamine for strictly a dissociative trip. however, mxe combined with other psychedelics seems to alleviate the negative effects. it is nothing short of mindblowing with 2ci. never been in any hole like that before. there were points this past week when i didn't even realize i was still in my home. it's not like a k hole. it last much longer and is extremely warm and introspective.

another drawback of mxe is its duration. don't do it unless you've about 8 hours to spare, and redosing, while increasing the intensity, also increases the time it'll be hanging out. the afterglow is far from unpleasant, but i typically don't have all day to sit around on a dissociative. caffeine helps a lot with getting over the last stage of wobble for me.

cool stuff. i'm sure it won't be available through legal channels for long though.


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Re: Methoxetamine: Scrub a Dub and Poot in the Tub [Re: millzy]
    #14203349 - 03/29/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll post a proper report later on.

In short it was an insightful, euphoric, and just plain fun experience (did 30mg). It slowed time down tremendously and made music sound deep and stretched out. I also experienced some twinges of both "cuddling empathy" and a few manic thought loops. Laying down felt great. All of these effects though were very mild at this dosage and highly manageable. I'm gently easing my way towards the elusive hole. I can feel this is going to be an ally.

Why insufflation? Because as a ROA it is easier to re-dose and titrate in my opinion - plus some Bluelighters pointed the way. Sublingual is (supposedly) stronger and lasts longer, but I'll save it.

There is a noticeable anti-depressant effect the next day, perhaping accounting for why it was a little tricky going to sleep.

It was nothing like DXM in my mind, much more like ketamine. I can't comment about PCP because I've never done it. But even the name PCP makes children cry, so I'd avoid that analogy.

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