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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said:
ConfettiHead said:
The soundtrack to my newly found nihilism:



I have lost all faith in the human race.
Every man, every woman, every child is a disgrace.
We don't deserve to live.
We don't deserve to die.
Because life is worthless.
Don't bury me unless you're sure that I am dead.
No one will notice the absence of time.
It is the difference between the sheep and the swine.
Slowly chewing away and resisting.
Slowly we rot in the mouth of existence.
Bury my body at sea.
So the dogs won't be able to find me.
Burn all the remains and scatter the ashes accordingly.
Drop down, drop down.
Grind your knees in the glass as you drown.

Simply beautiful. :heart:


Well if you tripped and listened to this, I can see why you would have come to the conclusion you did! LOL

(not judging) :grin:


I am judging, what a chump :lolsy:

He'll find new meaning in life when spring break ends and he goes back to the 10th grade


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: smack] * 1
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smack said:
If life is meaningless then all stories, novels, film, art is meaningless.



Newsflash:
Everything is inherently meaningless.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 2
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JoieDeVivre said:
Just because there's no god to give you meaning doesn't mean that you can't create your own. Nothing has intrinsic meaning, except that which we give meaning. That should be freeing.



Indeed


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: Dawks]
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Death is also meaningless, you're fucked either way.

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: xbloodwhipx] * 2
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xbloodwhipx said:
you're fucked either way.


Why?
Meaninglessness isn't bad or good.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
Just because there's no god to give you meaning doesn't mean that you can't create your own.


Just because YOU don't think there is a god...


note: not saying I think there is one (thats not the point), only pointing out that others do

..Unless this post was directed more to OP in a way such as...."just because you, OP, have not put stock into any god/gods to give you meaning, doesn't mean that you can't create your own."
That would work

The post came off in a more definitive sounding statement though

Edited by TheMule73 (03/30/13 05:45 PM)

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: TheMule73]
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Jesus fucking Christ, here we go.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: something super extreme] * 1
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sVs said:
smack said:
If life is meaningless then all stories, novels, film, art is meaningless.



Newsflash:
Everything is inherently meaningless.


Well, fuck.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: something super extreme]
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sVs said:
Jesus fucking Christ, here we go.


I'm not trying to get into a debate over the existence of god, for if god was defined in the traditional western sense I would be on the argument of against existence...

I'm trying to stop biased statements from being made, that I happen to be seeing more and more IRL and online. 

Especially on this site, and in todays age, in a society where we are more and more trying to not oust any one group and to give every group of people their fair due, it doesn't seem right to make biased sounding statements placing one group with a belief in god on the outer rim...

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: TheMule73]
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life is meaningful.

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: TheMule73]
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There is no god, at least not in the common conception of god. There's DEFINITELY not a god who gives meaning to life, which is what I was specifically addressing.

I'm not going to argue with you about it. If you want to discuss, we have to start from the logical position that there is no evidence to suggest a god and thus there's no reason to suggest a god exists. If you want to give some evidence for a god, we can start to discuss why a god might exist. (Note that personal experiences that one person may have doesn't count as evidence, because there are personal experiences of all sorts of things that do not exist in our reality like purple flying people eaters, demonic presences and a man in the sky talking to you.)


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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
There is no god, at least not in the common conception of god. There's DEFINITELY not a god who gives meaning to life.


and the all knowing continue to shower us with their knowledge.

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: unam sanctum]
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I didn't claim to know anything. I said based on the current complete lack of any evidence for god whatsoever, we can safely assume there is no god until the status of evidence for god changes.

If you think you can say "god might exist" based on no evidence whatsoever, you're probably deeply attached to your death anxiety and a desire to live beyond this life which is fine for you but I'm not going to pander to those sorts of ego protecting ideas.


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Is anyone else tired of this stupid song?


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: something super extreme]
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sVs said:
Is anyone else tired of this stupid song?



never even heard it.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
I didn't claim to know anything. I said based on the current complete lack of any evidence for god whatsoever, we can safely assume there is no god until the status of evidence for god changes.

If you think you can say "god might exist" based on no evidence whatsoever, you're probably deeply attached to your death anxiety and a desire to live beyond this life which is fine for you but I'm not going to pander to those sorts of ego protecting ideas.


multiple cultures had and possibly still have no idea that larger human society existed/exists.  we have no proof intelligent life exists on other planets, but it almost certainly does.  I doubt the existence of a god, universal force, etc. but I'm not going to be so bold to say it doesn't because of the absence of proof.  deeply attached to my death anxiety :lol:  because if a god did exist, that would automatically entail an afterlife. the shit you come up with, :facepalm:

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: unam sanctum]
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My point is that the church, a group of people who have the same rights as any other group no matter how ridiculous their views, will eventually get more rights taken away because society as a whole will move towards the firm point of view that god does not exist.

Which is fine. It is not fine however to not acknowledge that some people do believe in existence. Because as the years/decades go on and the voice of the people grows louder in saying firmly "There is no god, there is no god", at one point or another these people will confront the church with some position that they should have the right to hold, claiming its hindering some societal growth or whatever.  At the point their logic will go..."God doesn't exist, screw your right to believe in it, we are doing X this way."

Which would be just as bad as not giving muslims their fair rights or gays theirs.

To stop this from preventing, instead of thinking "No, god is not real, so this is my position..." We should think "My position is this, because I personally don't believe god is real, even though there is a group of people who clearly due and have the right to believe it"


You can say this is some slippery slope or what have you, but if you can not see that the church's rights are being stripped away more then ever, and that younger generations are moving away from belief in god then that would only be telling me you live in ignorance.

So again, your post I originally quoted, I had a problem with because it wasn't relative to the person with whom you were speaking, instead it seemed like it was being applied to all groups. Which will eventually turn from being applied to a group, to being forced upon a group.

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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: TheMule73]
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TheMule73 said:
Which would be just as bad as not giving muslims their fair rights or gays theirs.




No. Using homosexuality in this comparison is disingenuous.
Sorry, religion is a waste of time and space. Burn the churches, lynch the preachers.

Build crackhouses and titty bars on the space these places used to occupy. Then you'll be helping people.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
there is no evidence to suggest a god and thus there's no reason to suggest a god exists.


False.

Anyone who has claims to have witnessed God is evidence of God's existence. Irrefutable evidence, no. But evidence.


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Re: Life is meaningless... [Re: something super extreme]
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sVs said:
TheMule73 said:
Which would be just as bad as not giving muslims their fair rights or gays theirs.




No. Using homosexuality in this comparison is disingenuous.
Sorry, religion is a waste of time and space. Burn the churches.
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You could be trolling, idk.....but this goes exactly with my post above.

Eventually, people WILL say that. Fine, forget about the gay community (no problem with your point there). My point being that churches should have their rights even if it is a waste of time and space just like any other group holding beliefs (not referencing gays this time). And if we don't acknowledge their people as having a legitimate right to hold a view, then society will turn to all sorts of ridiculousness against them.

Edited by TheMule73 (03/30/13 06:25 PM)

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