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Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing,wears "killer" shirt
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Ohio school shooter TJ Lane spewed vile and unprintable words today at the families of three students he killed, gave them the finger and then laughed and smiled as they described him as an animal and a monster.

Lane, 18, got another chuckle when the judge sentenced him to three life terms in prison with no chance for parole.

Lane was waiting for a bus to an alternative school when he killed three students during a Feb. 27, 2012 rampage at Chardon High School. Daniel Parmertor, 16, Demetrius Hewlin, 16, and Russell King Jr., 17, died in the attack. Three other students were injured.


Lane arrived at his sentencing hearing today wearing a blue button down shirt. After he sat down, he unbuttoned the shirt to reveal a white T-shirt with the word "killer" emblazoned across the front in black marker.

When Lane was given the opportunity to make a statement to the court, he gave a short, crude statement that ended with "f*** all of you" before sticking up his middle finger in the courtroom filled with the loved ones of the three students he gunned down.

"Frankly, I wasn't prepared for this," the prosecutor said moments after Lane's gesture. He said the action was proof that Lane is a "disgusting human being."

"This is confirming what we have known all along, that this was a cold, calculated, premeditated killing," the prosecutor said.

Lane smirked and smiled as family members of his victims called him "repulsive" and hoped for him to be locked up in a cage "like an animal" for the rest of his life.

Lane's defense attorney told the court that he "strongly urged" Lane not say what he was about to the court, but Lane proceeded anyway.

Survivor Nick Walczak was in court today. Walczak was shot twice in the neck, once in the back and once in the arm. He was left paralyzed after one of the bullets hit his spinal cord. He was friends with the three teens who were killed.

Several family members of those Lane killed and hurt were in court and made strongly worded statements.

"A few weeks prior to the shooting, Russell told his friends that he wanted to hang out with the shooter again," Russell King Jr.'s sister told the court. "He wanted to be his friend. He felt sorry for him."

Lane smirked.

The strongest words condemning Lane came from Dina Parmertor, Daniel Parmertor's mother.

"I want him to feel my anger towards him," she said. "After today I refuse to give him a second of my thoughts...He is repulsive. We don't speak his name and we never will."

Lane laughed as she spoke.

"I am in pain every minute of every day. I cry every day," she said. "I will never be the same because of him...My children look at me and do not see the same mom they used to know."

Parmertor's mom said she worries every time her family members leave the house, fearing it will be the last time she sees them.

She called him a "monster" and a "pathetic excuse for a human being."

"I hope you have a cold, rough, unkind prison life with monsters like yourself," she said. "If I had my choice you would die an extremely slow, torturous death...You're a weak, pathetic, vile coward."

"What was the motive for this merciless rampage?" the judge asked before announcing his sentence. "The answer is, we don't know. We have not been provided a clear answer or even a murky one."

Judge David Fuhry said Lane appeared to simply want to "make a big splash, make front page news."

"[He] attacked without discernible motive, provocation or reason. The court finds such a person extremely dangerous," he said.

The judge said whether Lane was in any way impaired at the time of the shooting was a big consideration. He said it was proven that Lane feigned mental illness after the shooting.

"To the contrary, TJ Lane was an intelligent student positioned to graduate early. He was not insane, incompetent or impaired on Feb. 27, 2012," the judge said. "He consciously and methodically carried out a plan to kill...Of course he knew that what he was doing was wrong."

Lane plead guilty on Feb. 26 to three counts of aggravated murder, two counts of attempted aggravated murder and one count of felonious assault. He was not eligible for the death penalty because he was 17 at the time of the shooting.
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So what do you guys think about his actions?


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Deadkndys420] * 10
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:shrug: He will have a long time in prison and is going to get his butthole pounded.


Who cares... he's clearly a miserable, angry person. Think about how shitty his existence is.


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: withoutawire]
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Does anyone have a transcript of what he said? I'm curious what exactly it is he said. Or is that 2nd video all he said?


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: withoutawire] * 1
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Yea, he'll make a fine bitch for someone for a very long time..



This guy probably could use a date...


Or maybe this guy will show him some lovin'...



Or maybe some one like this...



:chaingang: . . . :peace:


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Shroomslip]
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What a scumbag.
He won't be laughing when he unwillingly gets
His corn hole loosened.

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Deadkndys420]
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What a little cunt.


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said:
Does anyone have a transcript of what he said? I'm curious what exactly it is he said. Or is that 2nd video all he said?



And he said
"The hand that pulls the trigger that killed your sons now masturbates to the memory,"

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: T-Rex]
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I got that part of it, just reading the news story it made it seem like (to me anyways) he said more than that one line. Mostly the 'spewed' part makes it seem like he went on some long winded rant or something.


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With my face against the floor I can’t see who knocked me out of the way.
I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Shroomopotamus said:
What a little cunt.



Your signature makes all my pain go away..


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: T-Rex]
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His shirt said KILLER on it; I gotta feeling he's going to be wearing one that says "BITCH" when he meets Bubba.

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: withoutawire]
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withoutawire said:
Think about how shitty his existence is.




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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: abltsandwich]
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He'll have bitch tattooed on his forehead. I bet he'll kill himself after a few months in prison.

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: Deadkndys420] * 5
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I'm so torn about this. Obviously the kid should be punished but wishing violence on him and getting pleasure out of the idea is doing exactly what he does.

Clearly the kid is very mentally fucked up, if he had gotten help for his issues or had decent parents none of these kids would have been killed. Obviously he doesn't even have a grasp on cause and effect or have any sense of empathy.

Imagine yourself being in this kid's position, ACTUALLY in his mind not with your own morality. He's so disconnected from reality and being raped in prison isn't going to fix that or make reparations for anything that he has done. I think a better option would be intensive therapy (nothing more expensive than keeping him in prison ideally) so that he DOES feel some remorse for what he has done and so that the parents of the victims can get some closure.

We need to be preemptive as a society on this sort of thing. After the fact punishment doesn't do anything to prevent it from happening again unfortunately.


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Too bad ohio doesnt have the death plenty :shrug:


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: trekie] * 5
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trekie said:
Too bad ohio doesnt have the death plenty :shrug:



What good would the death penalty do? I never understand why people want the death penalty for horrendous crimes. It would be getting off easy for the kid anyway, life in prison is WAY worse than just ending life. Life in prison means you are actually paying for what you have done. Now, I know US prisons aren't ideal for this because they're all about for profit work but ideally a prison should make it's inmates give back to the society they harmed.

It's often more expensive than housing them in prison and there's no chance for us to LEARN about what the hell is wrong with these people so we can identify and fix it early.


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: trekie] * 4
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JoieDeVivre said:
I'm so torn about this. Obviously the kid should be punished but wishing violence on him and getting pleasure out of the idea is doing exactly what he does.




Agreed, its the same damn thing.  I doubt that at 16 we can tell he'll be messed up at 85- life without parole is just stupid.

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Clearly the kid is very mentally fucked up, if he had gotten help for his issues or had decent parents none of these kids would have been killed. Obviously he doesn't even have a grasp on cause and effect or have any sense of empathy.




Yep, and the comments he's made are very likely the one bit of control he has in this situation.  He's a looser whos hated by the community and the only tiny bit of satisfaction he can get is by provoking them.  Doesn't seem too surprising he'd do something like this, especially given that was probably the motivation for the shooting in the first place- self pity/control.



trekie said:
Too bad ohio doesnt have the death plenty :shrug:



Yes it does, it just would have been unconstitutional to execute a child who commits a crime.

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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: trekie]
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trekie said:
Too bad ohio doesnt have the death plenty :shrug:



They do have it but he was 17. http://www.drc.ohio.gov/public/executionschedule.htm
 
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The judge said whether Lane was in any way impaired at the time of the shooting was a big consideration. He said it was proven that Lane feigned mental illness after the shooting.

"To the contrary, TJ Lane was an intelligent student positioned to graduate early. He was not insane, incompetent or impaired on Feb. 27, 2012," the judge said. "He consciously and methodically carried out a plan to kill...Of course he knew that what he was doing was wrong."

Lane plead guilty on Feb. 26 to three counts of aggravated murder, two counts of attempted aggravated murder and one count of felonious assault. He was not eligible for the death penalty because he was 17 at the time of the shooting.


Fuck him. He'll get his just rewards...:peace:


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: vinsue]
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This whole story doesn't make sense.

No human could do what he did and smile in the courtroom.

This kid is possessed.

Tragic


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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: JesusIsLord]
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Yes, humans can commit terrible atrocities. It makes them no less human, it means they're warped probably because they haven't been as lucky as you and I in our life experiences and genetic predispositions.


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UBUNTU- I am because we are.



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Re: Ohio School shooter curses at and flips off families at sentencing [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 3
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What a bunch of hippy-feelgood crap.  Like anyone should be concerned with his well being at this point.  He's gonna rot and get gang raped in prison and that thought makes me a little happy.

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