l3estever said:

qman said:

l3estever said:

because profit in itself is morally corrupt.  profit is when you make money... where does that money come from?  someone is losing it. investors make money in interest, by you PAYING BACK MORE THAN YOU TOOK.  if the system was fueled by ethics instead of greed every business would break close to even and there would be no need for profit. 

and I have a lot to learn?  maybe you are the one in need of finding knowledge. 
how can you say that landscaping companies aren't subject to contracts, funding and guidelines. 

WHO CUTS THE GRASS ON THE HIGHWAY MEDIAN?
do we wait for it to cut itself so the government don't have to have weekly maintenance contracts with landscapers?  or is it a government contract
WHO MAINTAINS THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN?
does Barrack pay out of his own pocket for that? or is it government funded

and here is a link to some god damn LAWS ON LANDSCAPING... no guidelines?  where did you come up with that nonsense
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0373/Sections/0373.185.html

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Investors make or lose money by investing into capital, which includes equipment, but more importantly humans with innovative ideas.

Making a profit is essential for a business to continue to exist, there is nothing immoral about it, how do you suggest to continue to run?

I highly suggest studying economic theory, if you are a communist then fine, at least admit it.

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lol at least you are not as rude to me as prisoner... why is it so hard to imagine a world in which we don't make any money and everybody breaks even.  what i'm saying might have roots in communism but i think to label myself as such dismisses the validity of anything i say from 99% of americans.

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luvdemshrooms said:

BlindSophist said:

Money is bullshit.

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Those of us with the ability to make money disagree.

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BlindSophist said:

luvdemshrooms said:

JoieDeVivre said:

No, not all. Even people with money have differing opinions on it's value and place in society, big shocker there. 

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Not at all? Yet you go on to say there are differing opinions?

You should roll your eyes at yourself for that one.

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Just thought I'd hold this winner up for everyone to see in case he edits it.

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I almost missed that response entirely.

Rail_Gun said:

luvdemshrooms said:

BlindSophist said:

Money is bullshit.

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Those of us with the ability to make money disagree.

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You do not have the ability to make money. Money is made by the banks through fractional reserve dilution of the money supply. You have the ability to "earn" small amounts of this paper and wipe your own ass with it. Only 3 things produce actual wealth and those are mining, manufacturing, and harvesting. All other economic activity including all "money" are just ways to redistribute real wealth.

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A response so beautiful it brought a tear to my eye.

Prisoner#1 said:

l3estever said:

you just said that your state owns a fleet of machines and hires workers who's sole job is to cut the grass and then you ask me "what contracts?"  hmmm... maybe the contracts they have to buy the fleet machines and the working contracts of said full time landscapers

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what contracts? what's this got to do with Joe's Landscaping Service, they

still dont have a contract and the State of Stupor buying mowers from Johns
Mower Sales doesnt express any contracts just as state employees and state
prisoners arent contract labor


do you think flip flopping around like a flippity floppity flounder makes your
so very wrong  statements any more right?

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you sir are the flippity flopping flounder.  everytime you buy something you are making a contract.  it doesn't matter if it is an interval based contract or the one time contract of $5000 for one piece of machinery.  because there is a person in power who choses which tractor company to go to that leaves potential for corruption, no denying that I hope?  and how are state prisoners not contract labor?  do they not come out to mow on a regular basis?  who is funding the transportation and supervision? 
it all comes back to one big circle of people of authority making decisions with government money (whether a one time purchase or reoccurring contract) and this ultimately effects the people in the private sector, by giving people with connections a huge advantage over those that don't. 

why you have to be such a mean crazy cat idk... come over here to the dog pack its much more fun

l3estever said:

i think that you are thinking of co-operation in a competitive society... in a completely cooperative society people feel good for making a contribution.  and don't get jealous that the person next to you did more... because NOBODY IS BEING PAID AT ALL.  you both just get to live another day.  did you know you can feel successful and happy at work without getting paid? most people don't

lets take an example of finding a cure to an illness... in a cooperative society the scientific community would all come together and share research.  in a competitive society they keep all their findings secret until they can patent their discovery and make the money for themselves and their own company.

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the reason that most people starve on this planet is not a lack of food.  it is a lack of cooperation by the people who have the food to sell it.  because guess what... if you can't afford it you starve and die.  why do people continue to think this is right?  a starving child shouldn't die hungry on a street because WE WANTED THE MONEY FOR THE FOOD AND THEY DIDN'T PAY UP. 
children are starving to death because of our monetary based economy.  would you be willing to give up all your money and materials if you were promised that no more children died because of a lack of funds?

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qman said:

BlindSophist said:

Money is bullshit. The survivors of our broke-ass society will take note of where we went wrong.

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Our monetary system is bullshit, money or wealth is not. Accumulating wealth through hard work and responsible living is the key to a successful culture, relying on someone else for my future well being is bullshit.

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l3estever said:

lets take an example of finding a cure to an illness... in a cooperative society the scientific community would all come together and share research.  in a competitive society they keep all their findings secret until they can patent their discovery and make the money for themselves and their own company.
why do you believe that a "think-tank" or "group-think" is inefficient and unproductive in nature? 

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would you be willing to give up all your money and materials if you were promised that no more children died because of a lack of funds?

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l3estever said:

i think that you are thinking of co-operation in a competitive society... in a completely cooperative society people feel good for making a contribution.  and don't get jealous that the person next to you did more... because NOBODY IS BEING PAID AT ALL.  you both just get to live another day.  did you know you can feel successful and happy at work without getting paid? most people don't

lets take an example of finding a cure to an illness... in a cooperative society the scientific community would all come together and share research.  in a competitive society they keep all their findings secret until they can patent their discovery and make the money for themselves and their own company.

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the reason that most people starve on this planet is not a lack of food.  it is a lack of cooperation by the people who have the food to sell it.  because guess what... if you can't afford it you starve and die.  why do people continue to think this is right?  a starving child shouldn't die hungry on a street because WE WANTED THE MONEY FOR THE FOOD AND THEY DIDN'T PAY UP. 
children are starving to death because of our monetary based economy.  would you be willing to give up all your money and materials if you were promised that no more children died because of a lack of funds?

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l3estever said:

Prisoner#1 said:

l3estever said:

you just said that your state owns a fleet of machines and hires workers who's sole job is to cut the grass and then you ask me "what contracts?"  hmmm... maybe the contracts they have to buy the fleet machines and the working contracts of said full time landscapers

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what contracts? what's this got to do with Joe's Landscaping Service, they

still dont have a contract and the State of Stupor buying mowers from Johns
Mower Sales doesnt express any contracts just as state employees and state
prisoners arent contract labor


do you think flip flopping around like a flippity floppity flounder makes your
so very wrong  statements any more right?

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you sir are the flippity flopping flounder.  everytime you buy something you are making a contract.  it doesn't matter if it is an interval based contract or the one time contract of $5000 for one piece of machinery.  because there is a person in power who choses which tractor company to go to that leaves potential for corruption, no denying that I hope?

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l3estever said:

why is it so hard to imagine a world in which we don't make any money and everybody breaks even.

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BlindSophist said:

luvdemshrooms said:

JoieDeVivre said:

No, not all. Even people with money have differing opinions on it's value and place in society, big shocker there. 

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Not at all? Yet you go on to say there are differing opinions?

You should roll your eyes at yourself for that one.

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Just thought I'd hold this winner up for everyone to see in case he edits it.

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Patlal said:

Oh fun. Another financial problem.

I blame this on the fact that kids with diplomas can only get minimum salary jobs if they get lucky.

Just fucking get your PhD, declare bankruptc, start work a super high paying job, waitfor  that 7 year period to end and then just buy a huge house cash, then borrow what you need to buy income properties and become a multimillionaire.

The banks have been fucking people over, time to fuck over the banks. Every man for himslef

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One typical example of administrative bloat and its consequences was illustrated by the American Association of University Professors and featured in a 2012 report by John Hechinger of Bloomberg News.  Between 2001 and 2010, the number of tenure and tenure-track faculty at Purdue, of one of America's great land grant universities, increased 12 percent while the number of graduate teaching assistants actually declined by 26 percent.  Student enrollments in this decade increased by about 5 percent.

During the same period, though, the number of administrators employed by the university increased by an astonishing 58 percent and resident tuition rose from just under $1400 to nearly $9000 per year in a pattern that appears highly correlated with administrative growth.  One $172,000 per year associate vice provost had been hired to oversee the work of committees charged with considering a change in the academic calendar-a change that had not yet even been approved.  Since the average Purdue graduate leaves school with about $27,000 in debt, the salary of this functionary is equivalent to the education loans of six students.

         
This new administrator blithely told the Bloomberg reporter, "My job is to make sure these seven or eight committees are aware of what's going on in the other committees."  At the same school, the chief marketing officer earns $253,000 and the chief diversity officer $198,000 per year.  The marketing officer spent $500,000 to "rebrand" the university, developing the slogan, "We are Purdue. Makers, all. What we make moves the world forward."  Very catchy, indeed!  Perhaps the marketing department could develop a slogan that would help explain to parents and students why they must take on more and more debt to pay the salaries of ever-growing hordes of administrative parasites. 

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luvdemshrooms said:

BlindSophist said:

luvdemshrooms said:

JoieDeVivre said:

No, not all. Even people with money have differing opinions on it's value and place in society, big shocker there. 

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Not at all? Yet you go on to say there are differing opinions?

You should roll your eyes at yourself for that one.

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Just thought I'd hold this winner up for everyone to see in case he edits it.

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There's no need to edit it. You contradicted yourself. I merely pointed it out.

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Go ahead and reread the quotes. I said "not all." I did not say "not at all," which is what you mistakenly thought I said. There was no contradiction in what I said, just in your interpretation of what I said.

l3estever said:

qman said:

l3estever said:

because profit in itself is morally corrupt.  profit is when you make money... where does that money come from?  someone is losing it. investors make money in interest, by you PAYING BACK MORE THAN YOU TOOK.  if the system was fueled by ethics instead of greed every business would break close to even and there would be no need for profit. 

and I have a lot to learn?  maybe you are the one in need of finding knowledge. 
how can you say that landscaping companies aren't subject to contracts, funding and guidelines. 

WHO CUTS THE GRASS ON THE HIGHWAY MEDIAN?
do we wait for it to cut itself so the government don't have to have weekly maintenance contracts with landscapers?  or is it a government contract
WHO MAINTAINS THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN?
does Barrack pay out of his own pocket for that? or is it government funded

and here is a link to some god damn LAWS ON LANDSCAPING... no guidelines?  where did you come up with that nonsense
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0373/Sections/0373.185.html

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Investors make or lose money by investing into capital, which includes equipment, but more importantly humans with innovative ideas.

Making a profit is essential for a business to continue to exist, there is nothing immoral about it, how do you suggest to continue to run?

I highly suggest studying economic theory, if you are a communist then fine, at least admit it.

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lol at least you are not as rude to me as prisoner... why is it so hard to imagine a world in which we don't make any money and everybody breaks even.  what i'm saying might have roots in communism but i think to label myself as such dismisses the validity of anything i say from 99% of americans.

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Prisoner#1 said:

JoieDeVivre said:

Prisoner#1 said:

JoieDeVivre said:

Want to know my solution?  I'm sure no one does because I'm a bleeding heart liberal but I'll share anyways: slash work time in half. This will ensure everyone is employed and will prepare our economy for the exponentially increasing amount of automation we're already seeing that eliminates some of the need for a labor force. In their new found free time, Americans can focus more on scientific, academic and creative pursuits thus bettering our populous overall, and hopefully generating some more critical thinkers, rather than having everyone constantly slaving away most days of the year at poorly paying jobs that don't contribute anything very meaningful and most people hate anyway.

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hahahahaa... I hope that was supposed to be funny and not taken seriously

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So why not impress us with something of substance instead of just saying "hahaha I hope that wasn't supposed to be take seriously" or is that all a Pris education can afford us? 

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I'll give you something once I get out of the hospital, I think I ruptured
something from laughing so hard, thank god for obamacare, now you can pay
for my medical expenses

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JoieDeVivre said:

Go ahead and reread the quotes. I said "not all." I did not say "not at all," which is what you mistakenly thought I said. There was no contradiction in what I said, just in your interpretation of what I said.

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luvdemshrooms said:

JoieDeVivre said:

Go ahead and reread the quotes. I said "not all." I did not say "not at all," which is what you mistakenly thought I said. There was no contradiction in what I said, just in your interpretation of what I said.

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So your smugness revolves around that?

Good for you! I'm glad I made your day.

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No, mine does.

We're two different people.

akira_akuma said:

wow, so you do nothing but troll. awesome!

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