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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: Revok]
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There are like 10 different conversations going on at once.

I can't keep up with this thread.

:hmm:


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: koods]
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koods said:
TheMadHatter777 said:
Everyone should read what i'm about to say carefully and take it to heart.

Even if guns are outlawed in the US, CRIMINALS will still have them.

The only difference is we won't be able to defend ourselves from said criminals. Or the government for that matter.


Congrats on the use of the most cliche tautology in the history of political discourse.



but it's true... see, no guns in england yet the police have machine guns
clearly the outlaws still have guns as you can see from this gang here





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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: koods]
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koods said:
TheMadHatter777 said:
Everyone should read what i'm about to say carefully and take it to heart.

Even if guns are outlawed in the US, CRIMINALS will still have them.

The only difference is we won't be able to defend ourselves from said criminals. Or the government for that matter.


Congrats on the use of the most cliche tautology in the history of political discourse.


Elaborate more on this if you would.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
Shins said:
Joie, show me the evidence that any of the recent mass shooters were previously diagnosed as mentally unstable.


A simple google search could do that for you. If you seriously think a mass shooter could commit such an act and not be mentally unstable, you know little to nothing about the human psyche.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57497820/james-holmes-saw-three-mental-health-professionals-before-shooting/
https://www.google.com/search?q=mass+shootings+and+mental+illness&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.
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Shill said:
Do you really think it will end up in the medical communities hands though; I'm not really disagreeing with you I just didn't see it being logical with the government setting stipulations of a mental evaluation if that's what you were implying


Of course. Do you think that government employees would give the evaluations or something? It would be just like getting a physical for a job. You have to get an evaluation done by someone who is a certified doctor and you present the paperwork to the necessary people after the fact.


Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Shins said:
Joie, show me the evidence that any of the recent mass shooters were previously diagnosed as mentally unstable.


A simple google search could do that for you. If you seriously think a mass shooter could commit such an act and not be mentally unstable, you know little to nothing about the human psyche.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57497820/james-holmes-saw-three-mental-health-professionals-before-shooting/
https://www.google.com/search?q=mass+shootings+and+mental+illness&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.
Quote:
Shill said:
Do you really think it will end up in the medical communities hands though; I'm not really disagreeing with you I just didn't see it being logical with the government setting stipulations of a mental evaluation if that's what you were implying


Of course. Do you think that government employees would give the evaluations or something? It would be just like getting a physical for a job. You have to get an evaluation done by someone who is a certified doctor and you present the paperwork to the necessary people after the fact.


Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.





precisely


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A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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Shins said:
JoieDeVivre said:
What are you talking about? I'm saying a mental evaluation by the medical community's terms. If you're unstable enough to be a danger to yourself or others, no legal firearms for you.


Joie, show me the evidence that any of the recent mass shooters were previously diagnosed as mentally unstable.


Unfortunely, shins is probably right. Sometimes these shootings are manifestations of their first psychotic break.

I do think a large majority of the shooters are probably schizophrenic. They are all in their early twenties, and that is significant clue.

zappaisgod said:
JoieDeVivre said:
TheMadHatter777 said:
Everyone should read what i'm about to say carefully and take it to heart.

Even if guns are outlawed in the US, CRIMINALS will still have them.

The only difference is we won't be able to defend ourselves from said criminals. Or the government for that matter.


No one wants to outlaw guns, we want restrictions on who can buy them based upon mental health assesments. Is that so hard to understand?

No one wants to outlaw guns.:kingcrankey:


This is patently false.  Lots of people, including many liberal politicians, want to outlaw guns.


We should outlaw guns with high capacity and firing rate. If you can't defend yourself with a revolver or shotgun, you are a fucking pussy.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: YSHServant]
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TheMadHatter777 said:
koods said:
TheMadHatter777 said:
Everyone should read what i'm about to say carefully and take it to heart.

Even if guns are outlawed in the US, CRIMINALS will still have them.

The only difference is we won't be able to defend ourselves from said criminals. Or the government for that matter.


Congrats on the use of the most cliche tautology in the history of political discourse.


Elaborate more on this if you would.


If you outlaw something, by definition, the people who continue to have that thing will be criminals.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.


They were seeing a psychiatrist and thus obviously mentally unstable in some way. The problem is that they weren't previously diagnosed and properly treated before acquiring a firearm. If they were, the mass shootings wouldn't have happened.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: The_Aviator]
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The_Aviator said:...The guy killed his mother at home. She was a teacher at the school.

No shit,  I'm well aware of that.sarcasm went unnoticed:shrug: I've had it on TV since 11AM. Just sayin' the news said the 2 handguns were licensed and registered to the deceased Mother. I believe the rifle wasn't and that's what he shot up the school with...:tombstone: . . . :peace:


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: Shill]
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This thread exploded into like 6 different threads


Anywho, I guess the mother of the shooter, supposedly the kindergarten teacher was never listen in the directory as a kindergarten teacher.


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: Shill]
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Shill said:
This thread exploded into like 6 different threads


Anywho, I guess the mother of the shooter, supposedly the kindergarten teacher was never listen in the directory as a kindergarten teacher.


No shit!

People say i'm mad, but I said this before!

:knowwhatnevermind:


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.


They were seeing a psychiatrist and thus obviously mentally unstable in some way. The problem is that they weren't previously diagnosed and properly treated before acquiring a firearm. If they were, the mass shootings wouldn't have happened.


you are making the assumption that a mentally unstable person cannot obtain firearms illegally which is totally false.

you are also assuming that that guy was diagnosed as mentally unstable.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: YSHServant]
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TheMadHatter777 said:
Shill said:
This thread exploded into like 6 different threads


Anywho, I guess the mother of the shooter, supposedly the kindergarten teacher was never listen in the directory as a kindergarten teacher.


No shit!

People say i'm mad, but I said this before!

:knowwhatnevermind:


LOL, madhatter.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.


They were seeing a psychiatrist and thus obviously mentally unstable in some way.


This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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Facebook screencaps for those who missed them





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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


Really? Do you go see a psychiatrist if you are not concerned about your mental health?


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


Really? Do you go see a psychiatrist if you are not concerned about your mental health?




I don't see a psychiatrist or a psychologist but lots of people who are mentally stable see them.  But that isn't what you said, is it? 
zappaisgod said:
JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
Ken u reed?  He asked specifically if any of them had been previously diagnosed.  Your links go no where to establish that.


They were seeing a psychiatrist and thus obviously mentally unstable in some way.


This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


Ignorant.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


Really? Do you go see a psychiatrist if you are not concerned about your mental health?


I don't see a psychiatrist or a psychologist but lots of people who are mentally stable see them.  But that isn't what you said, is it? 


If you're seeing a psychiatrist and you don't feel like you're at least somewhat mentally unstable you're wasting your money.


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
JoieDeVivre said:
zappaisgod said:
This is a stunningly ignorant statement.


Really? Do you go see a psychiatrist if you are not concerned about your mental health?


I don't see a psychiatrist or a psychologist but lots of people who are mentally stable see them.  But that isn't what you said, is it? 


If you're seeing a psychiatrist and you don't feel like you're at least somewhat mentally unstable you're wasting your money.


They have taken the place of clergy for very many people in this country.  I don't think you know what unstable means and are you really arguing that seeing a psychiatrist at all is automatically grounds for disqualification of gun rights?  What about marriage counseling?  Are people seeing those shrinks "unstable". 

You really are incredibly ignorant about why people see shrinks.  And I would also point out that it isn't your fucking money so you shouldn't be concerned with how they spend their money.  Good lord  you are quite the judgmental one, telling people how they should act all the time.


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Re: Elementary school shooting in connecticut two shooters [Re: zappaisgod]
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:stonedjerk:


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
- William Blake

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