ghooru said:

Well we have that portion of our brain all the same, so clearly those traits are there and we utilize that segment in greater or lesser degrees.  You can look at it in symbolic terms as well, just comparing human behavior to that of a reptile.  But the thing is, human behavior can start to really resemble that of a reptile sometimes, in almost uncanny ways.  I'm not even talking about those videos showing newscasters and such, I'm talking about things I have noticed about other people in day to day life.

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Human behavior resembles animal behavior period, not just reptiles. That's obvious because we share evolutionary traits through our genetics. We don't resemble reptiles any more than we resemble mammals who we are much more similar to on behavioral and genetic levels. Of course we resemble reptiles and all other sorts of animals, that doesn't mean there's a secret race of reptilians that is ruling the world though.

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Also, scientists debate all theories.  I do remember in my evolutionary psychology class I took a while ago, we spent a good amount of time on the triune brain theory, so I don't think it's even that outlandish.

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ghooru said:

the theory alone does not suggest anything on the 'reptilian overlord' scale.  It's more like an after the fact explanation.  The thing about how reptile/hybrids have been fucking with the planet hardcore for thousands of years takes into account things like The Bible, ancient Babylon, and the current state of our planet. If you wanna come to a conclusion about it you gotta study the Annunaki and Nephilhim and stuff like that. And the fact is, the truth is out there but it can be hard to finalize it sometimes so I try not to trip out about it too much.

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There are no reptile hybrids. Does the reptilian overlords theory suggest that there's some different evolutionary branch entirely that is hidden to modern science? It all seems like an attempt to suggest that the human race is inherently weak and only reptilian overlords can be capable of manipulation, doing bad, etc. The truth is that humans can do good or bad. It doesn't take reptilian hybrid DNA to be in a position of power with malicious intentions, that's something humans are completely capable of.

Just like any other conspiracy theory, there's not really much evidence to suggest it's true other than the ramblings of some misguided people.

If anything it's just another attempt to distract you from the real truth which is that there are no overlords, regular humans are responsible for really bad things sometimes, we are all complicit in what happens in the world and we all have the power to change the course of the future.

ghooru said:

well you don't have to believe it, it is a very cosmic idea in some ways so I don't expect everyone to just instantly get down with it.

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ghooru said:

I just think that there are some seriously dark forces and people who have been active on this planet for a long time, and they are 'interplanetary' in nature.  I don't 'buy' into it, it has literally been an aspect of getting older and discovering what kind of world this is.

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The moment I decided it was real was when I was reading this really amazing novel called 'The Famished Road,'  there was a part where the hero of the story was boxing with an evil kind of guy and the author started to describe him as a reptile in this really creepy way..Something deep inside me just said 'fuck yes, I know its like that."  That's a really great book to read if you want to understand how really cosmic shit directly effects earth through politics and other aspects.

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I mean, there are also books about wizards and gods and trolls. That book appears to be talking about something spiritual rather than interplanetary reptilian hybrids though.

JoieDeVivre said:

I'm not attacking you, just so you know, I'm curious as to how anyone could honestly buy into this.

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MorphinTime said:

I think a big reason in why people buy into the reptillian/NWO/Illuminati conspiracies is because they want to believe there is something larger than themselves in control, not unlike religion or spirituality.  It doesn't matter if the thing in control is benevolent or malevolent in nature, just so long as it has more responsibility in how life plays out than the individual does.  Chaos and impermanence are scary, so we as a species generally like to pretend there is more control.  It's just another way some cope with death anxiety I would think.

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Very insightful. I'm inclined to believe you're right about that in the majority of cases.

JoieDeVivre said:

BlindSophist said:

I believe it without question. I don't actually believe that alien reptiles are infiltrating the species, but I believe certainly that certain humans are primarily driven by the reptilian brain.

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I don't understand why you guys are calling the part of humans that is driven by instincts the "reptile" brain. It's no more reptile than it is ape, it's just the more primal part of our existence but it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories or world takeovers. Yes, we as still evolving beings retain ancestral physiology. That's not something anyone rational ignores.

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ghooru said:

Uh, yeah, it is something very spiritual.  And we do know about them already. I'm not 'coping' with shit, get that DA psychobabble out of here.  If you don't wanna accept these things I have learned through much trial and error that nothing I say will make you abandon your 'skepticism'

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BlindSophist said:

It's pop mythology, like any half-decent conspiracy theory. It's almost a poetic style, used to spread truth about the motivations of the powerful in a way that is "catchy". My understanding of the theory is that the reptile brain, concerned with maintaining control over the "best spots", may play a primary (as in reptilians) or secondary (as in humans) role to the social directives of the mammalian brain. In this sense, the elites are reptilian due to their predominating interest in acquiring and maintaining power and control. The metaphor strikes me as completely appropriate and practically descriptive.

It's far-out stuff, no doubt, but to accuse the elites of reptilianism gets a lot of people talking and thinking that might otherwise take their bullshit at face value. It's a way of impressing upon people who take compassion to be the mark of humanity that many of our leaders are not, by these terms, actually human. It's a difficult message to spread without fearmongering, but what I like about Icke's story is that the takeover is not imminent-- it actually forms the basis for the power structure that dominates our history.

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Ultimately, I agree with him that addiction to power should be considered and described as something sub-human.

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XLCaps said:

I can't watch the vid because I'm on my phone but I think there's certain things about the repilitain thing that are possible. Dinosaurs for instance were around for millions and millions and millions of years. Who's to say an intelligent race didn't develop? Its probably bullshit but there's possibility to it.

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ghooru said:

Uh, yeah, it is something very spiritual.  And we do know about them already. I'm not 'coping' with shit, get that DA psychobabble out of here.  If you don't wanna accept these things I have learned through much trial and error that nothing I say will make you abandon your 'skepticism'

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JoieDeVivre said:

BlindSophist said:

It's pop mythology, like any half-decent conspiracy theory. It's almost a poetic style, used to spread truth about the motivations of the powerful in a way that is "catchy". My understanding of the theory is that the reptile brain, concerned with maintaining control over the "best spots", may play a primary (as in reptilians) or secondary (as in humans) role to the social directives of the mammalian brain. In this sense, the elites are reptilian due to their predominating interest in acquiring and maintaining power and control. The metaphor strikes me as completely appropriate and practically descriptive.

It's far-out stuff, no doubt, but to accuse the elites of reptilianism gets a lot of people talking and thinking that might otherwise take their bullshit at face value. It's a way of impressing upon people who take compassion to be the mark of humanity that many of our leaders are not, by these terms, actually human. It's a difficult message to spread without fearmongering, but what I like about Icke's story is that the takeover is not imminent-- it actually forms the basis for the power structure that dominates our history.

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Accusing the elites of reptilianism scares people and takes away their personal responsibility. It spreads fear, distrust and divisiveness all the while diverting us from the actual problems. Maybe it's a good metaphor if you're intelligent enough to grasp it but right now a large amount of people actually think there's something to the idea of a hybrid reptilian race and it's all serving as a distraction from our abilities to move forward and develop together.

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Ultimately, I agree with him that addiction to power should be considered and described as something sub-human.

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I completely disagree with you, it's not subhuman. It's an inherent human trait due to our ancestral brains which we need to be able to fully understand and control rather than acting like it's something inhuman or beyond us. We need to take responsibility for our actions, all of them, to be able to move forward and just blaming them on the "reptilian" brain hinders us from doing that and learning from our own motivations.

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BlindSophist said:

The actions of the elites are not my actions. My civic leaders are complicit in mass murder, theft, genocide. I support none of these things and it would be dubious to claim that I somehow benefit from any of it. Why the hell should I take responsibility for these scum? I'd prefer to cast them out and wash my hands of their affairs.

To spread some degree of fear is responsible when there is a real threat to be feared, and necessary to break complacency.

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