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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1]
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make yer own weaponz like potato guns & flame throwers & flamin potato launchers & turtle shell nun-chucks with blades sticking out the shells or get a katana or a chainsaw & build yourself some explosives
guns are for pussies


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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or water pistols filled with acid :bigyesnod:

I dunno, it's not an easy issue, but it's probably true to say that these guns are there anyway and if you ban them or make stuff expensive due to taxation there will be a larger blackmarket just like in the drugs case. Not simple. :strokebeard:


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Montock said:
And to the guy who said converting an ar is easy, that's a flat out lie. You obviously are misinformed or talking out your ass. The only thing remotely close to being easy about an ar conversion, would be an ss-ar15 slide fire stock conversion, which will set you back 350$ just for parts. Also this is not a an actual full auto conversion,still  making your statement wrong/misinformed. also as any guru will tell you, slide fire is dicey as fuck and a good way to kill yourself, also let's not forget about having to swap the barrel and 90% of your internal parts to handle the abuse, setting you back another 1-1.5k easy. There nothing smart or easy about converting an ar




I'm pretty sure you just swap out these pieces and the bolt carrier and
do a bit of machine work and then when you're caught you got to prison




Lolzor, for a very long time, uncle Sam doesn't like full auto weapons in the hands of anyone they don't know about and tax the fuck out off,

A bit of machine work, lol, I'm sure everyone's got EASILY got a bridge port and a lathe in theory garage, not to m
Prisoner#1 said:
Montock said:
And to the guy who said converting an ar is easy, that's a flat out lie. You obviously are misinformed or talking out your ass. The only thing remotely close to being easy about an ar conversion, would be an ss-ar15 slide fire stock conversion, which will set you back 350$ just for parts. Also this is not a an actual full auto conversion,still  making your statement wrong/misinformed. also as any guru will tell you, slide fire is dicey as fuck and a good way to kill yourself, also let's not forget about having to swap the barrel and 90% of your internal parts to handle the abuse, setting you back another 1-1.5k easy. There nothing smart or easy about converting an ar




I'm pretty sure you just swap out these pieces and the bolt carrier and
do a bit of machine work and then when you're caught you got to prison




lolzor so yes, ill go ahead and say that its easy AS LONG AS:

youve got a bridgeport, know how to use it, most people probally dont know wtf that is, let alone how to turn it on, or use it skillfully

access to a blueprint, and the abilitiy to read it correctly the first time

access to full automatic internals that will fit into a civilian ar-15, with no further modifaction

the engineering prowess to succefully convert a blow back  to a blow forward

the skill set to put it all together after you frankenstien your civilian ar-15, and the nerve, or lack of brain power to bump the trigger for the first time

Than it's WAY EASY to convert a ar-15, i wont even flame the point that no ones has mentioned an manufacturer, or the fact you cant even take it out to a public range, or use it for funzies

way easy dude, hahah, truth be told any joe blow who can change the breaks on his car, can get full automatic fire out of their ar -15 with a ssar-15 stock in under 20 minutes, its legal to ship to your house, just not legal to install or use, unless youve got the permit


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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Prisoner#1 said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Guns as a symbol of democracy? 



without them we'd be subjects of the king, either of england or spain, maybe we'd be french or japanese


That is a statement that holds absolutely no weight to say they should be legal or not.
Anyway, WTF is this stand your ground law bullshit I heard about in America. Retarded as fuck

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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Fire is Born]
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Fire is Born said:
Prisoner#1 said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Guns as a symbol of democracy? 



without them we'd be subjects of the king, either of england or spain, maybe we'd be french or japanese


That is a statement that holds absolutely no weight to say they should be legal or not.
Anyway, WTF is this stand your ground law bullshit I heard about in America. Retarded as fuck


never heard of it, got the cliff notes?


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Montock]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/fatal-neighbor-dispute-caught-tape-shooter-mentions-stand-16515299

There are fucking loads more stupid stories like this. LOADS

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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
PreparationH said:
I can't vote for someone who is going to remove a right that is so blatantly written into our Constitution.  I despise Mitt Romney but I think this actually may have swayed me to the anyone but Obama camp.


What the fuck? You think the authors of the constitution had any idea where weaponry would be right now? You think they would think it's necessary that every citizen have access to assault rifles with huge clips? Come on. :rolleyes: You're seriously willing to vote for Romney just because you think you should legally be able to own such a deadly weapon? You think your desire to "protect yourself" in such a way is worth the damage Romney would do to the country otherwise? Should civilians have access to nuclear bombs as well, how about tanks with arms on them?

If Obama doesn't ban assault weapons, a later president will. It just makes sense.



You're just one big walking Democrat cliche, aren't you? Try thinking for yourself instead of following the lines of sheep for a change.

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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Fire is Born]
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Fire is Born said:
Prisoner#1 said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Guns as a symbol of democracy? 



without them we'd be subjects of the king, either of england or spain, maybe we'd be french or japanese


That is a statement that holds absolutely no weight to say they should be legal or not.
Anyway, WTF is this stand your ground law bullshit I heard about in America. Retarded as fuck


How is the right to self defense "retarded"? You think it's smart to turn your back and run on someone with a knife?

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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: setb]
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setb said:
How is the right to self defense "retarded"? You think it's smart to turn your back and run on someone with a knife?


:thumbup:

Or a gun, bat, club, brick or bare hands.


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Deadkndys420]
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Deadkndys420 said:
drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Fire is Born]
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Fire is Born said:
Prisoner#1 said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Guns as a symbol of democracy? 



without them we'd be subjects of the king, either of england or spain, maybe we'd be french or japanese


That is a statement that holds absolutely no weight to say they should be legal or not.


to the contrary, if I dont want to be someone's slave I can rise up against
them, it certainly makes it easier when I own a gun, without guns the US
would still be subject of the king, we could have been taken by the spanish
or the french and during WWII is was our guns that stopped the japanese
from invading the mainland. guns in the hands of the people are what ensure
the freedom of this country

Quote:
Anyway, WTF is this stand your ground law bullshit I heard about in America. Retarded as fuck


really? so you believe that a person should run from an assailant that's
armed and intends to do them harm? should that also hold true for the
elderly or hose with physical handicaps that have no chance in hell of
getting away or fighting off a group of young thugs. maybe they should be
required to call the police and wait for them to arrive, I'm sure that the
man that intends to rob, rape and kill the young woman closing up her
business for the night is going to just stand around while she makes the
phone call and then wait for the police to arrive so he can be taken into
custody... afterall, the ops always stop crime before there's a victim

do you believe that people dont have the right to defend themselves?

Fire is Born said:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/fatal-neighbor-dispute-caught-tape-shooter-mentions-stand-16515299

There are fucking loads more stupid stories like this. LOADS



just because someones says "I was standing my ground" doesnt mean they were
justified in going home, grabbing a gun only to return and shoot their
neighbor. do you think if the law didnt exist that shootings would stop?
the US outlawed murder a few years back, the certainly stopped all the
killings... didnt england outlaw guns only to have a rise deaths by both
stabbings and shootings? didnt the outlaw knives too, that didnt seem to
stop people from stabbing other people. wasnt there just a mass shooting in
cumbria a place where people arent allowed to wander around with guns just
shooting people all willynilly


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1546085/The-vagaries-of-UK-knife-crime-statistics.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10219655


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Shroomacabra]
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Lolzor, for a very long time, uncle Sam doesn't like full auto weapons in the hands of anyone they don't know about and tax the fuck out off,

A bit of machine work, lol, I'm sure everyone's got EASILY got a bridge port and a lathe in theory garage, not to m
Shroomacabra said:
Deadkndys420 said:
drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.


that is incorrect
no such thing as an assualt rifle


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Shroomacabra]
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Shroomacabra said:
Deadkndys420 said:
drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.



it's considered to be so by the media and the politicians seeking to ban
them, assault rifles are in fact capable of fully automatic fire
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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1]
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im going to say something also, there is no such thing as an ak 47 in america, in order for any sort of wepon like that to come to the states, they have to chopped up and re assembled with so many american parts, so unless youve got an super old school ak, or black market import, youve got something else, for example the (ak47) that i recently bought is actually a W.A.S.R. 10 underfold, its called an "a.k. style rifle"


Prisoner#1 said:
Shroomacabra said:
Deadkndys420 said:
drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.



it's considered to be so by the media and the politicians seeking to ban
them, assault rifles are in fact capable of fully automatic fire
.


correct, no such thing, only propaganda


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Montock]
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Montock said:
Shroomacabra said:
Deadkndys420 said:
drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.


that is incorrect
no such thing as an assualt rifle



incorrect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
Quote:
An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


just as you're unaware the the modifications to make an AR-15 into a select
fire weapon requires little more than a file and a drill to complete so
there's no need for a mill, something that is available to hobbyists for
around $600... no need for a large bridgeport or a full machine shop


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Montock]
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Montock said:
im going to say something also, there is no such thing as an ak 47 in america, in order for any sort of wepon like that to come to the states, they have to chopped up and re assembled with so many american parts, so unless youve got an super old school ak, or black market import, youve got something else, for example the (ak47) that i recently bought is actually a W.A.S.R. 10 underfold, its called an "a.k. style rifle"



you are so full of bad information it's pretty scary. before the brady ban on
'assault weapons' AK-47s were regularly brought into the country by several
companies, since the brady bill was passed and of course later most of the
provisions dropped due to the sunset laws, the AK-47 has remained an import
product only with various other name as well. yea the A in AK stands for
automatic just as it stands for automatic in the .45 ACP which is a
semi-automatic pistol round in most instances


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1]
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drewo said:
They consider an assault weapon only to be a fully automatic weapon, correct?  Semi automatics aren't considered an assault weapon?


I believe so.


That is incorrect. An AK-47 is considered an assault rifle whether or not it is fully automatic.


that is incorrect
no such thing as an assualt rifle



incorrect

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
Quote:
An assault rifle is a select-fire (either fully automatic or burst capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


just as you're unaware the the modifications to make an AR-15 into a select
fire weapon requires little more than a file and a drill to complete so
there's no need for a mill, something that is available to hobbyists for
around $600... no need for a large bridgeport or a full machine shop


yea ive seen those, have fun blowing your hand off, those type of conversions tend to empty entire magazine in full auto as fast, often warping barrels, or shattering the entire gun along with your hand, the ssar15 slide fire stock is 3x more reliable.... and that thing is dicey

i apreciate your wiki link, but its clearly descibing a select fire wepon... lol call up colt and ask them or an actual manufatcurer, bolt action, semi automatic, full automatic, select fire, but no assualt rifles


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Fire is Born said:
Prisoner#1 said:
JoieDeVivre said:
Guns as a symbol of democracy? 



without them we'd be subjects of the king, either of england or spain, maybe we'd be french or japanese


That is a statement that holds absolutely no weight to say they should be legal or not.


to the contrary, if I dont want to be someone's slave I can rise up against
them, it certainly makes it easier when I own a gun, without guns the US
would still be subject of the king, we could have been taken by the spanish
or the french and during WWII is was our guns that stopped the japanese
from invading the mainland. guns in the hands of the people are what ensure
the freedom of this country

Quote:
Anyway, WTF is this stand your ground law bullshit I heard about in America. Retarded as fuck


really? so you believe that a person should run from an assailant that's
armed and intends to do them harm? should that also hold true for the
elderly or hose with physical handicaps that have no chance in hell of
getting away or fighting off a group of young thugs. maybe they should be
required to call the police and wait for them to arrive, I'm sure that the
man that intends to rob, rape and kill the young woman closing up her
business for the night is going to just stand around while she makes the
phone call and then wait for the police to arrive so he can be taken into
custody... afterall, the ops always stop crime before there's a victim

do you believe that people dont have the right to defend themselves?

Fire is Born said:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/fatal-neighbor-dispute-caught-tape-shooter-mentions-stand-16515299

There are fucking loads more stupid stories like this. LOADS



just because someones says "I was standing my ground" doesnt mean they were
justified in going home, grabbing a gun only to return and shoot their
neighbor. do you think if the law didnt exist that shootings would stop?
the US outlawed murder a few years back, the certainly stopped all the
killings... didnt england outlaw guns only to have a rise deaths by both
stabbings and shootings? didnt the outlaw knives too, that didnt seem to
stop people from stabbing other people. wasnt there just a mass shooting in
cumbria a place where people arent allowed to wander around with guns just
shooting people all willynilly


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6960431.stm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1546085/The-vagaries-of-UK-knife-crime-statistics.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10219655


Right, so everyone took their personal gun to the war with them. It's not like they were issued to the soldiers who fought the war :rolleyes: Hence why I said it held no weight. I didn't say guns were wrong. I just said you made a dead point. I still say that.
I don't think guns are wrong. Do you seriously think everything is fucking gravy over there though. You have terrible gun crime and lot's of retards owning them. You need more regulation. Fuck that law too. You already have self defence laws. From what I hear there has been almost 6000 death attributed to this new law since it came in across the states it's used in. Yes I do think it is a retarded law. Giving gun crazy people even more reason to be gun crazy.
Selling fucking fully automatic rifles...and for what? Home defence haha please. People buy big guns like that for fun or home defence. For fun...there is no need. For home defence...you're asking for trouble and out of fear? Well scared paranoid people with automatic weapons is a stupid idea.
Are you really that Bias? Do you really think that this is a little retarded? Americans simply can't be trusted with the amount of guns and free law that exists. Other countries have it and have less gun crime than UK. You guys are a little fucked in the head. Too many cowboy films

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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: setb]
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setb said:
You're just one big walking Democrat cliche, aren't you? Try thinking for yourself instead of following the lines of sheep for a change.


:rolleyes: I came up with that position on my own, which is why so many wont agree including a lot of democrats. I'm only a democrat because it's the party that aligns most closely with my ideals. I do not get my opinions from the democratic party platform and it's presumptive for you to think that just because I agree with something I do not think for myself. You think it's impossible to be against guns in general without getting that position from the democratic party? Just because my beliefs are different than your own doesn't mean I didn't come up with them from my own thought processes, we just think differently. Come on.


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Re: Assault weapons ban [Re: Fire is Born]
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im not saying "your wrong " pris, that might be what media has "turned into" an assualt rifle, but it clearly states "select fire" which my ak style rifle was, now the selector acts as a safety


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