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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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i take like 20mg of ambien a night to get to sleep, with klonopin. fuck.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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You remember less than you know.  They have a sneaky way of erasing parts of your memory without leaving any cracks.  I accidentally ate 100mg of phenazepam a few years back, and lost 2 weeks of my memory, and didn't even realize it.  If I hadn't found myself in the psyche ward, I would have had no idea that those weeks ever existed.  I woke up one moring, just like every other morning, and thought what I remembered to be yesterday was actually yesterday.  Foolish :lol:

millzy said:
i take like 20mg of ambien a night to get to sleep, with klonopin. fuck.



I eat 6mg alprazolam, 6mg etizolam, 20mg zolpidem, and 600mg phenibut per day. :lol:  I don't suggest it.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: BothHands]
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millzy said:
i take like 20mg of ambien a night to get to sleep, with klonopin. fuck.



Lord man I feel for you.  I would be doing everything in my power to get off that shit if I were in your position.

BothHands said:
You remember less than you know.  They have a sneaky way of erasing parts of your memory without leaving any cracks.  I accidentally ate 100mg of phenazepam a few years back, and lost 2 weeks of my memory, and didn't even realize it.  If I hadn't found myself in the psyche ward, I would have had no idea that those weeks ever existed.  I woke up one moring, just like every other morning, and thought what I remembered to be yesterday was actually yesterday.  Foolish :lol:



100mg of whatever the brand name of that stuff is is probably a lot different than 40mg Ambien...but yeah, there are certain parts I don't remember.  But there are some parts that I do (I went running around a pitch-black, empty dorm building at 5 in the morning :lol:)

Funny because ever since that trip, I have taken 10mg Ambien and tripped...when that amount used to put me to sleep.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: abltsandwich]
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abltsandwich said:
TurkeyTom said:
These meds do nothing good for people. Like you said it's just a band aid. People need to work on the real issues, such as lack of exercise, poor diet, etc



I'm glad we've gotten your professional medical opinion based on your years of expertise in the area.



These are the same people who want you to do a CWE on two or three 5/500mg Vicodin.  Because we all know how deadly APAP really is.  Shit like that cracks me up.

Sorry for off topic


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Phenazepam is much more potent, and has a half life of 60 hours. :lol:  It is a fair bit different, but it also has a lot of similarities.  Retrograde amnesia being one of them.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Konyap]
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Quote:
Sleeping pills lead to overweight and diabetic issues, anti depressents due the same thing along with some major changes/halts to brain structure.



Personally I don't think it's safe/wise to take any kind of sleeping pill/antidepressant/anti-psychotic for longer than a 6 month period. Any longer than that can cause permanent changes to your brain's receptors/neurotransmitter feedback system.

I've tripped on ambien before...for me it seems to seriously skew my thought process beyond recognition. For some reason I fell under the impression that my sleeping friend was a factory, and he needed Cheese Nips to run. So, trying to be helpful, I dumped a box of Cheese Nips on his face.
:lol:
I took a picture with my cellphone and I STILL use that picture as his photo ID in my contacts list. Needless to say he was pretty pissed about it.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: bryguy] * 1
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who needs sleeping pills when you have weed


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Its Pat]
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Its Pat said:
abltsandwich said:
TurkeyTom said:
These meds do nothing good for people. Like you said it's just a band aid. People need to work on the real issues, such as lack of exercise, poor diet, etc



I'm glad we've gotten your professional medical opinion based on your years of expertise in the area.



These are the same people who want you to do a CWE on two or three 5/500mg Vicodin.  Because we all know how deadly APAP really is.  Shit like that cracks me up.

Sorry for off topic



Nah I used to pop pain pills every once in a while, no cwe's
If you think psych meds have some potential value then by all means go ahead and take em.

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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Celestial Traveler said:
millzy said:
i take like 20mg of ambien a night to get to sleep, with klonopin. fuck.



Lord man I feel for you.  I would be doing everything in my power to get off that shit if I were in your position.



what sucks is that i don't take any of that to get high. i tell my doc everything, including that i double up on my ambien to get to sleep. and she's just like "well, you need your sleep". i have had sleeping problems my entire life. i'm shooting to get off of klonopin next semester. low dose dependency to klonopin is what concerns me more than the ambien. i seem to do okay after a day or so without ambien.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Syd Barrett]
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Syd Barrett said:
who needs sleeping pills when you have weed



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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: TurkeyTom]
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TurkeyTom said:
Its Pat said:
abltsandwich said:
TurkeyTom said:
These meds do nothing good for people. Like you said it's just a band aid. People need to work on the real issues, such as lack of exercise, poor diet, etc



I'm glad we've gotten your professional medical opinion based on your years of expertise in the area.



These are the same people who want you to do a CWE on two or three 5/500mg Vicodin.  Because we all know how deadly APAP really is.  Shit like that cracks me up.

Sorry for off topic



Nah I used to pop pain pills every once in a while, no cwe's
If you think psych meds have some potential value then by all means go ahead and take em.



Well congratulations for not doing CWEs.  You really don't need to unless you are doing massive amounts of pills with Tylenol in them.

Also you could go over two to two and a half times the daily recommended dosage for APAP in a day and still have no problems - even if you are naive to taking Vicodin, Percocet or Tylenol 3s/4s et al.

And even at that people can build a tolerance to Tylenol to the point where taking say 10 grams of Tylenol in a day ain't going to be no big deal.  But by that same token you shouldn't be doing that everyday.  It's all within reason.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: auronlives69]
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well fuck.

i've taken ambien almost every day for years.


haha looks like i'm even more fucked than i have previously figured:rebelrider:


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Salomon]
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millzy said:
Celestial Traveler said:
millzy said:
i take like 20mg of ambien a night to get to sleep, with klonopin. fuck.



Lord man I feel for you.  I would be doing everything in my power to get off that shit if I were in your position.



what sucks is that i don't take any of that to get high. i tell my doc everything, including that i double up on my ambien to get to sleep. and she's just like "well, you need your sleep". i have had sleeping problems my entire life. i'm shooting to get off of klonopin next semester. low dose dependency to klonopin is what concerns me more than the ambien. i seem to do okay after a day or so without ambien.



Yeah man honestly I'm no expert, but IMO it would probably be healthier in the long-term to just discontinue the meds and suffer the short-term insomnia withdrawals than to continue down that path for the rest of your life.

Salomon said:
well fuck.

i've taken ambien almost every day for years.


haha looks like i'm even more fucked than i have previously figured:rebelrider:



That's not even the way that you are supposed to take them as prescribed...prescription says to cycle them out in between months and even then that is obviously not good according to the article.


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: Celestial Traveler]
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Sleep deprivation isn't just unpleasant, its got serious health risks. Long-term insomnia has a giant list of ill effects and they are finding more and more every year. People that want to relieve this by taking a pill are just like everyone else in this country with 'preventable' health problems. They want a magic pill to fix everything. And most of the time it just isn't that easy. But some people need help

I realized somebody said this and almost everyone is thinking it but there is one practically magic solution, and its called weed


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Re: Prescription sleep pills increase chances of death times 3.5 [Re: bloodsheen]
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weed keeps me awake. i like it occasionally and have nothing against people who smoke it on the reg but that wouldn't work for me.


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