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Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father
    #3341126 - 11/10/04 01:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

here is the article... http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/union/index.ssf?/base/news-4/109998684845140.xml

a couple days ago some kid went crazy and ran around naked. he broke into houses and broke things. the next day he died. I live a couple towns away from where it happened and i heard it was because of mushrooms. in the article it says weed did this. i heard from close friends that he consumed shrooms. now how the hell are you going to overdose from weed or mushrooms? how are they going to blame his death on drugs because there was a pipe at his house??? can anybody help me figure this out?


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341135 - 11/10/04 01:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

wow, that's really too bad, my condolances.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341150 - 11/10/04 01:19 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

in the article it said he was bleeding? Perhaps he Bled too Death, people bleed to death all the time...


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341153 - 11/10/04 01:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

looks like he eat too much of something and got violent - this has happened before.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341156 - 11/10/04 01:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

from the article it seems to make clear they dont know whats going on... possible assumption: some kind of drug!

makes sense to me....

sounds like he fucking smoked some pcp or something, ive never seen anyone do anything half that outrageous on mushies.

of course the first thing everyone is going to think is a mind/personality altering chemical, and rightfully so!!

and NO WHERE in the article did it say "weed did this"

the dad mentioned that they found a pipe in his room and admited that teenager do experiment, in response to someone asking if a certain drug was the cause he would have replied "how am i suppose to know what he did?"

autopsy should help...

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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Todcasil]
    #3341207 - 11/10/04 01:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yea theres a lot of information going around about it. i was also thinking he was smoking something like pcp. unless he was a noob mushie muncher and ate too much and went out of his mind but i doubt it. its stupid how they even mentioned he had a pipe. if he had school books in his room would they ever blame it on that?(the kid had too much homework so he went crazy.)

remember kids..... only take what you can handle and always know your dealer


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341220 - 11/10/04 01:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

become your own dealer, thats my motto


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Todcasil]
    #3341224 - 11/10/04 01:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen a person bug out like this before on acid - they ate 600+ mics and went storming around the house breaking windows and mumbling about crazy stuff. it's possible on mushrooms, but on high dosage people tend to lose physical ability and get kinda lethargic.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Todcasil]
    #3341228 - 11/10/04 01:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

and to be safe, only deal to yourself


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341236 - 11/10/04 01:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

well, you cant hold out on your mom or dad, cmon!


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Todcasil]
    #3341242 - 11/10/04 01:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

they will steal it anyways


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341251 - 11/10/04 01:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

you have no idea...


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341323 - 11/10/04 01:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

People occasionally flip out on psychedelics, and this thing could have easily been caused by mushrooms. The mushrooms themselves wouldn't have killed him, that was probably from some injury he got at the time.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Phluck]
    #3341330 - 11/10/04 01:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, its never the mushrooms fault....

(not sarcastic)


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Todcasil]
    #3341383 - 11/10/04 02:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I still highly doubt that it was mushrooms or LSD.

There is a possibility, but to be that active and to want to continue slamming off the glass panes in the house, get back up and do it again.. that sounds more like as you guys said, PCP.

I really hope that there was no psilocin or LSD in his system.. as it's shit like this that gives the government credibility on their genocidal drug war.

For all we know the kid saw something his mind couldn't handle and just snapped... who knows. No reason to speculate, it just leads to rumors and rumors lead to propaganda.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341388 - 11/10/04 02:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Why is it people who can't handle their psychedelics always end up naked in public somewhere.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Silven]
    #3341390 - 11/10/04 02:04 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

wrong. I've seen it happen with my own eyes - people can easily bug out from LSD or mushrooms and go on violent rampages. If they so convinced of their hallucinations, they can do anything.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Vvellum]
    #3341427 - 11/10/04 02:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

grow your own stuff, use a scale, read a lot about and know yourself thats what i can say... pitty that incidents as these are always used to critisise drugs in general.

enjoy, grow but take care :heart:


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: zahudulallah]
    #3341553 - 11/10/04 02:45 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

zahudulallah said:
Why is it people who can't handle their psychedelics always end up naked in public somewhere.




:lol:

It's so true.  People who really flip out usually end up somewhere without thier clothes in the middle of very public place.  :lol:

This is a very unfortunate situation, but I really have trouble beleiving that this kid 'overdosed' on mushrooms.  Maybe an injury that he got while he was running around breaking things in his birthday suit, but the mushrooms themselves didn't kill him.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: CherryBom]
    #3341563 - 11/10/04 02:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Granted it's great to be on mushrooms and be naked. :lol:

Just don't do it in your public park.  (Or in other people's houses that you just jumped through the window of for that matter)


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Silven]
    #3341569 - 11/10/04 02:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

If he was gonna die from loss of blood it wouldnt of happened at 8am the next day.

I wonder what did kill him.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: baraka]
    #3341608 - 11/10/04 03:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps he suffered some irreversible wounds from breaking through the large pane windows. By the way he collapsed it could have been from a poisonous drug or internal damage from being stabbed with a shard of glass...

I really hope that they post the autopsy report on that same site, but the media has a way of only showing us what they want to..


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2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
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3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3341975 - 11/10/04 04:04 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

what if he ate a poisonous mushroom.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: mndfreeze]
    #3341978 - 11/10/04 04:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

That's my thought.

Extreme toxic dissociation, death by liver failure a few days later.

Fits pretty well.


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #3342279 - 11/10/04 05:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

who knows what could have happened, it just sucks how it gives the sacred fungis a bad name


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3342547 - 11/10/04 05:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

when u consume high amounts of mushrooms in the rang of 7-14 dried grams or more and your new your generally imobile for awhile. He coulda been on sherm, sherm makes people go ape shit. Mushrooms in high doses are more debilitating.
Sounds like he coulda been really drunk and on pills also like kolonpin or something. Kpins make me black out and i've been in some bad spots because of it like being beat down by five people at once... not my finest moment :undecided:


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #3343938 - 11/10/04 11:27 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

what kind other kinds of prescription or non prescription drugs would make someone go crazy, naked none the less and then die the next day?


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3343985 - 11/10/04 11:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

why


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3344036 - 11/10/04 11:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

He might have just had heart failure from all the stress he caused himself.

But my best guess is that he was just out of the loop and found out about Bush's re-election...


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: Cornelius]
    #3352339 - 11/12/04 05:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i have been hearing a lot about this lately and i found out that the kid smoked weed with pcp and thats what they are blaming it on. i then heard from a friend that he also did shrooms at the time too. i know for a fact that he was doin pcp though


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3353008 - 11/12/04 07:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Whoa thats pretty sad...my best friend grew up in berkley heights. Poor kid...


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: simplemachine]
    #3355366 - 11/13/04 01:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

i just hate how things like this gives shrooms a bad name


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Re: Teen's death after naked rampage baffles father [Re: danlennon3]
    #3355404 - 11/13/04 01:35 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

yeah they always try and pin it on shrooms or weed, make it so evil.. poor kid, but it doesnt sound like shrooms or weed to me AT ALL


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