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Too Humid?
    #1653979 - 06/22/03 06:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I left town for a few days this weekend and before I left I had three cakes that were just starting to pin. When I got back today, I noticed no new growth and the pin heads were covered in myc. The humidex read 100% and i'm sure it was fully saturated for at least a couple days... is this why I have no new growth? Also, can I expect them to recover? I also have a casing in there and it started pinning just fine... if that helps at all. Oh, and one of the cakes is turning blue... is it contaminated or is it just because of the humidity? Thanks.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: LouiCypher]
    #1653990 - 06/22/03 06:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

big droplets on them? that could be y u get the bluing


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1654000 - 06/22/03 06:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

"big droplets on them? that could be y u get the bluing"
Nope. Actually, it looks like the blue is going away. I've had the humidity back at 96 for about 5 hrs now and things are looking better.



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Re: Too Humid? [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
    #1654002 - 06/22/03 06:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

More likely, your cakes have turned blue from being too dry.

Most inexpensive hygromers become saturated and give higher readings than is accurate. Take the hygrometer out of your terrarium and it'll probably read 100% for an extended period.

When cakes dry, they often take on a blue / grey tint. Try soaking them in water overnight. If that was the problem they should start to recover in a few days.

Good luck with that.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1654017 - 06/22/03 06:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think my hygrometer is pin point acurate but I think it's pretty close. The air was fully saturated when I got here, I'm sure of that because I couldn't even see through the glass with all the water on it.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: LouiCypher]
    #1654059 - 06/22/03 06:51 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Water on the glass in an indication of condensation, not humidity.

Condesation occurs when there are differences in temperature. An example would be your cars windshield in the winter.



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Re: Too Humid? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1654240 - 06/22/03 08:27 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I don't mean to argue but, isn't condensation directly related to humidity? Cooler air holds less water than warm air.Condensation occurs when air becomes saturated (100% humidity).


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: LouiCypher]
    #1654261 - 06/22/03 08:34 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Condensation is directly related to humidity and temperature. Without a difference in temperature, there would be no condensation. Without a humidity greater than 0%, there would be no condensation. I believe it may be true that you cannot know anything about the humidity of the air inside a container by the condensation on the walls.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: LouiCypher]
    #1654283 - 06/22/03 08:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

could be because of your lack of air exchance, and all the co2 build up in there.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: A0999]
    #1654693 - 06/22/03 10:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I bet its the massive c02 build up. Drop the humidity, fan it 4 times a day + and you should recover probably.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: lemunhed]
    #1655842 - 06/23/03 02:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

His situation, as described, would have nothing to do with a CO2 build up. CO2 build-up would stall growth, but would not cause the blue appearance.

Assuming his cakes are not contaminated or bruised, can anyone think of any reason, other than drying that his cakes would turn blue?

Here are your options:
Fan them if you'd like, but it won't rehydrate your cakes.
Soak them overnight and/or raise your humidity and they'll heal in a few days.
Ignore useful advice.

Good luck with your cakes anyway. Take care.


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1655863 - 06/23/03 03:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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His situation, as described, would have nothing to do with a CO2 build up. CO2 build-up would stall growth,




his situation, as described, was mostly about stalled growth..... most likely due to lack of oxygen & co2 build up.
that was the question i was answering, as for the other minor question he asked about blueing, i was not answering.

so think about what your saying.


as for the blueing, i have no idea really, seems like you would have had good humidity in there, no oxygen was getting in there, i dont know.....maybe your cake was just stressed or something


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Re: Too Humid? [Re: A0999]
    #1655905 - 06/23/03 03:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

...so think about what your saying.

No need to lose manners over this. You seem to take my disagreement of your diagnosis personally, which it was not.

...his situation, as described, was mostly about stalled growth..... most likely due to lack of oxygen & co2 build up.

...as for the other minor question he asked about blueing...


I'm disagreeing again, but please don't be upset.

His situation was about stalled growth. The key symptom was the blueing.

This is a quote from his second post, "Actually, it looks like the blue is going away. I've had the humidity back at 96 for about 5 hrs now and things are looking better.".

See? Dry cakes.



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Re: Too Humid? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1655991 - 06/23/03 04:03 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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His situation was about stalled growth. The key symptom was the blueing.





I took this as two seperate questions.

Quote:

This is a quote from his second post, "Actually, it looks like the blue is going away. I've had the humidity back at 96 for about 5 hrs now and things are looking better.".

See? Dry cakes.





Seems like he needs to do more explaining for us to figure this out. First he said his hygro was at 100. Now I know nothing about hygrometers, so I don't know if they fuck up easily or not. Anyhow, he said humidity was at %100, later he stated the humidity was at %96 meaning he reduce humidity by %4. Seeing as how he reduced humidity, and his cakes were doing better, it makes me beleive there was too much humidity, as in wet cakes. (based on the information provided)


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