thirtygoats said:

i am one who wishes to be healthier. are there any really good whole body cleanse supplements you can recommend?

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sonar said:

I don't think "cleansing" supplements are necessarily BS, but given the wide selection of products available and dubious detox claims not all of them are equal in efficacy.

Overall liver tonic - Milk thistle
Adaptogens - Ginseng, Rhodolia Rhosea
Stress-reduction, nerve tonic, anti-viral/anti-bacterial - Lemon balm, damiana.
Digestion and general health - Apple Cider Vinegar, green tea.
antioxidants - coloured fruits and vegetables (particularly dark green / blue), multivitamins/mineral.

Of course just cutting out junk, binging and smoking will be more effective. The above can only reduce harm, but it won't resolve problems if you continue bad lifestyle habits.

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I definitely agree with a lot of this post but there are tons of products out there specifically geared toward this process and all of them are looking to make money, shame on them wanting to participate in a capitalistic system. You need to do your own due diligence but the one particular compound found in milk thistle has been getting rave reviews on PubMed for years now. I believe it's called "silibinin" but I may be wrong but the researchers are saying it's the only one of the four compounds found in the extract that is the worker among all of them and these claims are stunning. It's crazy though because buying milk thistle is tough because the assay quality of this particular compound can vary widely from crop to crop. You need to look into a manufacturer in the know who understands which single one of the four are effective and develop labeling stating the assay of this one compound.

Detoxifying is not bullshit because toxicity is real. This is like saying you can't adsorb a poison through the skin itself which is comical really and if it's absorbed through any portion of the skin that particular toxin can remain in deep tissue of that area for a long period of time and spread out. This is so funny to hear others claim that detoxifying isn't a valid modality when a top notch medical student here is claiming that allopathic medicine is now calling them "toxicans" as opposed to "toxins". I mean if mainstream medicine is embracing the idea it must hold some truth, right?

You really do need to do your own due diligence though in regards to what's being propped up out there as allopathics are saying antihistamines are great for detoxing! I shit you not! and the liver is always a great organ to seriously consider considering since the liver is a work hoarse. Check out the PubMed studies and abstracts available for review. I haven't read them in quite awhile but the things that were being said were short of astounding. Of course this type of information tends to piss off a lot of individuals who have an attitude already.

I wish you the very best in this and good luck to you.