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Desiring enlightnment?
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Quite impossible, no?
What is desired then? enlightenment lite?

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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enlightenment is the elimination of desire. that includes the desire of desiring nothing.


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: ACTG]
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How do you know what enlightenment is?

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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Do enlightened beings just sit in a corner and soil themselves all day? I'm sure there is desire.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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White Beard said:
How do you know what enlightenment is?



We read it in a book. :monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Icelander]
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:thumbup:

Anyone have any direct experience here or are you all just book worms? Speak up now. :waits:

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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You can't truly desire what you already are as you are that, but you can desire awakening to what you truly are
You can desire aligning your mind/body with the eternal truth, to live in the direct experience of it

This is a great desire imo, beautiful


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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Well, I mean, the 'thing' desiring enlightenment is the thing in the way. The self wants something, but I'm sure it doesn't want to kill itself.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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This is true, it's also true that its effortless, but up until the stage that effortlessness is a direct living experience, effort must be there in some way shape or form

Its a paradox, if one genuinely desires enlightenment then they will eventually, naturally, be relieved of this desire, but they don't make the choice or decision themselves to stop desiring enlightenment, that decision maker would still be that same one that is 'in the way'  :wink:


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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:thumbup:
The desire for enlightenment feels like a different desire compared to others. It feels like a burning obsession to stop being fake and to find out what is true. It isn't an egoic desire I suppose.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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The Chronic said:
This is true, it's also true that its effortless, but up until the stage that effortlessness is a direct living experience, effort must be there in some way shape or form

Its a paradox, if one genuinely desires enlightenment then they will eventually, naturally, be relieved of this desire, but they don't make the choice or decision themselves to stop desiring enlightenment, that decision maker would still be that same one that is 'in the way'  :wink:



I only say this as many stray from the path, rejecting the desire for enlightenment intellectually saying 'you shouldn't desire it because you are it'

Or often i'll read a post on here saying 'ive given up my search...' and rarely is there a truly positive undertone to it

A long time poster here recently said the same thing in a thread, somone who really kept me on my path a few years ago, and it hit me deeply to read them saying they have abandoned their path, maybe its just more comfortable for the time being to not step into the fire

White Beard said:
:thumbup:
The desire for enlightenment feels like a different desire compared to others. It feels like a burning obsession to stop being fake and to find out what is true. It isn't an egoic desire I suppose.



:thumbup:

its not a clingy possesive desire like usual, its an earnest yearning for what is True, for liberation
Its beautiful, and it eventually burns itself up, leaving desirelessness


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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You know enlightenment when it touches you. It's the most beautiful, comfortable, loving state you'll ever be in, you're invincible. But you don't stayed enlightened, eventually it will fade and you'll spend the rest of your life jumping from states of enlightenment. Nirvana often comes with it. But you will know, I promise you that.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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Oh, I'm not abandoning the good work. Each situation I'm working through a new barrier. The work will be down when there is nothing left to do.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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"Can you answer? Yes I can. But what would be the answer to the answer man?" :gd_icon:


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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White Beard said:
Oh, I'm not abandoning the good work.



Good, i didn't think you were but i thought it was worth mentioning for the sake of the topic of 'desiring enlightenment' :wink:


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: Chronic7]
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I've tried it many times before. My conclusion is that it can't be done. Live free or die, or something along those lines.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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Quote:
Anyone have any direct experience here or are you all just book worms? Speak up now.



Yeah.. there was nothing left, full fail, gave up on everything. There was only one thing left and I lost it.
All hope stopped, all will stopped. I wasn't looking for awakening, I didn't even believe in it.
.. and it happened.. such bliss, such joy, such knowledge, such sensory acuteness. With it came the will to live again and
so it passed.
Enligtenment would be a permanent wakefulness... guess that's the main drive now, although there shouldn't be any goal at all.
Funny thing.
It's a lot to ask for. It isn't that easy being at full indifference about everything, even your own death, permanently.
It's bit easier when you know you're not even real, but still really hard.


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: cbub]
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:thumbup: Groovy.

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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: White Beard]
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and he's not the only one :wink:


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Re: Desiring enlightnment? [Re: g00ru]
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But theirs only one, N00b! :levitate:

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