Auto-SummaryThis forum post offers advice to a user named Bundy struggling with schizophrenia. Key points include:
1. Taking an active role in recovery, as doctors can only do so much. Bundy is encouraged to work with a psychotherapist and consider medications like Invega.
2. The therapeutic relationship is crucial for positive outcomes. Bundy plans to bring their fiancé to sessions for support, though it's advised to discuss this with the therapist first.
3. Bundy is exploring additional medications and acknowledges the possibility of limited effectiveness of anti-psychotics.
4. The post introduces Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) as an approach that focuses on achieving goals despite symptoms. It's suggested as a potential fit for Bundy.
5. A controversial statement about putting hope in a child is addressed, emphasizing that a child cannot "save" Bundy and it's unfair to place such responsibility on them.
6. Lastly, the post encourages taking control of daily life aspects, such as personal hygiene, which can contribute to overall well-being and recovery.
The tone is supportive and direct, offering encouragement while providing actionable advice for Bundy's situation.
Ethnobotanical said:
Another thing you need to realize Bundy is that you are going to need to play a BIG part in your recovery if you want any hope. Doctors can only do so much, including pharmaceuticals. Take control of your life...
I second this... recovery requires you to take control of what is going on and taking action in directions that will improve the long term outcomes..
Bundy said:
Yeah, I'm working on getting back into see a psychotherapist, I was recently released to my primary MD, but he won't work with me and my anti-psychotics, so he wants me back into my psychotherapist. Which is great. I loved going. It was someone to talk to who understood me. Or at least, seemed like she did, which was enough.
I have an appointment next month on the 5th for a re-psych-evaluation. Hopefully they will let me back in to their practice, and see my old psychotherapist again.
It's awesome you found a therapist who you had a good connection with. The therapeutic relationship is a good indicator (if not the best) of good therapeutic outcomes..
Bundy said:
If I do, I'm going to have my fiancé sit in with me on a few visits. She'll hear fully what's going on with me, and hear response from a professional. etc etc yada yada.
You might already be thinking to do this but, it would be best to ask the therapist before bringing in your girlfriend.
Bundy said:
Also, I have one more med I can try ( Invega ) and I'm going to try and get on it.
It's my last hope. but I read a certain percentage of Schizophrenics don't take to anti-psychotics. Which will blow for me, cause I seem to keep getting worse and worse.
( More voices, delusions, paranoia, hallucinations, I'm sleeping most of the day. I'm skipping showers, letting my facial hair grow. Just complete let go, which is scaring me )
Fingers crossed it helps. But if it's any consolation, hope can be found still in many places.
One thing maybe worth considering if you haven't already is to think about improving other aspects of your life despite the delusions/hallucinations. Sometimes we can put all our eggs in one basket and think we need a "cure" and for all the symptoms to go away before we can start achieving, getting successes, and increasing life satisfaction.. but the two things can be independent from one another. One therapy, you might have heard about, that takes an approach of achieving goals despite uncontrollable symptoms is called Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT)... it can be a good fit for some people.
Bundy said:
I'm just hoping and praying that when my baby girl is born, and I hold her for the first time, all my troubles will melt away. It's a long shot, but  it may help.
I know this may sound odd but someone once told me ( A Schizophrenic ) he was in a position like mine ( Symptoms getting worse ) and he got a kitten, and said that it changed his life.
I just hope my baby girl saves me. I know that sounds selfish.
Going back to the "taking control of your life and your recovery" idea above... Saying you hope your baby girl will save you is not taking control. It is wishful thinking and is really unfair to put that sort of responsibility onto your daughter. So I'd pop that bubble quick smart. Your daughter will not and can not save you. That's not to say you won't feel great when she's born, you probably will feel great, but that's you feeling great because a wonderful girl has come into your life. It will say more about you and your emotional responses and your ability to let yourself be vulnerable and Love... she has very little to do with it at all, and is definitely not saving you. The main reason why I stress this is that as your daughter gets older, she may begin to feel responsible for you and feel responsible for "saving you" even though that's completely mixed up. You will be responsible for her, not the other way round. She is meant to feel like you're taking care of her, not the other way round (well not until you're a geriatric at least). It might make you feel good in the short term to have hope she will make your life better, and it might even be thought that it's flattering her by showing how powerful or important she is to be able to "save" someone, but it ain't. It's unfair and potentially cruel to put that sort of responsibility on a child. Let the child be a child while they are a child. ...that's my 2c.
Further on taking control... Is there anything preventing you from shaving and bathing, etc? You might not have control over stopping the voices but other things are in your control... and if a particular behaviour, like shaving, makes you feel better (or at least prevents you from feeling worse), then that behaviour can be thought of as part of the therapy on the road to your recovery and getting a better grip of your life and your achievements. ...I suppose that probably is up to 4c at least now.
I don't want to lecture, and I think I am, so I'll stop, but I hope you get something from this. I give you credit for being open to hearing people's feedback here. By being open to alternative ideas, you'll discover more options, and more options means there is the opportunity to change strategies when it's needed, which will improve your persistence with improving your life, and persistence with the right combination of strategies almost always ends in successes of many shapes and sizes...
All the best 
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