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gonna bulk up
    #3318499 - 11/04/04 02:45 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i'm 5'10'' and weight about 165 lbs right now. i go to the gym regularly and am pretty cut and all that but i'm going to go on a very regulated high protein, high carb, basically high food diet. i don't have very broad shoulders and am actually pretty skinny so i want to add about 15 pounds to my frame. i'm also in a position in my weight lifting where i want to really explode and be able to add more weight to each excercise(i've been stuck on the same weights for a while now).
i plan on chronicalling my progress with an update every week or two(probably bi weekly). i guess i should take all of my measurements/weight and even photograph myself and compare the progress at two week intervals. i've been wanting to do this for a while to see if it works and to see if i like it so here i go...starting monday november 9th i'm going to write down my weight and snap a photo then see where i end up in a few months making sure to take measurements every two weeks.
any shroomy weight lifters ever try this? let me know how it went or even if you want to work alongside me!!


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3318872 - 11/04/04 08:14 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Eat like a champ. It is the only way you will grow. Don't be sad when your definition is gone and your six-packs are put in the fridge.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3318928 - 11/04/04 08:32 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

The first thing you should do is find your BMR (basal metabolic rate). This is the amount of calories your body needs each day at rest. You'll have to eat a surplus of calories from that number in order to gain weight.

Try to eat 6 times a day, making sure you have a source of complex carbs and protein for each meal. Good protein sources: any lean meat (chicken, turkey, etc.), fish, eggs, cottage cheese, etc. Good carb sources: potatoes, yams, oatmeal, brown rice. You also need good sources of fat, which contains omega 3 and omega 6 EFAs. Nuts are a good source of fat and natural peanut butter is also good. Flax seed oil and fish oil are great sources of healthy fat. Try to aim for a 40/40/20 ratio of protein, carbs, and fat respectively. It's a good idea to at least have a basic idea of the amount of calories you're eating. If you're eating too few you won't put on any size and if you eat too much you will be gaining excess fat. For your size 3000-3500 calories would be a good amount to put on lean mass. You should be putting on about 1-2 pounds a week so modify your calories accordingly.

Remember, when you're bulking it is inevitable that you will gain some fat so you'll lose some definition. Bodybuilders bulk during the off-season and cut before competitions. Cutting is when you drop your calories below maintenance and start doing cardio. The goal during cutting is to lose as much fat as possible while keeping as much muscle as possible.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: looner2]
    #3318947 - 11/04/04 08:38 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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looner2 said:
Eat like a champ. It is the only way you will grow. Don't be sad when your definition is gone and your six-packs are put in the fridge.




Bad advice. Eat a healthy balanced diet. Not just eat.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: bf6]
    #3318983 - 11/04/04 08:49 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Bad advice. Eat a healthy balanced diet. Not just eat.




Did I tell him to eat a non-balanced diet? No. I told him to EAT. That is what you must do if you want to GAIN weight and put on muscle. Don't talk about things you don't know anything about.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: looner2]
    #3319573 - 11/04/04 11:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the tips looner and comfortably numb. well, i definetly don't want to loose definition so maybe i'll start out slow on this diet. maybe gain 10 pounds and evaluate from there. can't loose the sixer!!


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3319617 - 11/04/04 12:04 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If you want to bulk substantially, you're going to have to accept that your abs might dissapear for a little while - but you will get them back when you start the cut phase, and potentially, they will be even better - along with your other muscles.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: looner2]
    #3319892 - 11/04/04 01:05 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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looner2 said:
Don't  talk about things you don't know anything about.




:lol:

My wife was a Dietician for a long time, I was a personal trainer. I'm not too worried about not knowing what I'm talking about.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: looner2]
    #3319900 - 11/04/04 01:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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looner2 said:
Did I tell him to eat a non-balanced diet? No. I told him to EAT.




It's not that you told him to eat an unbalanced diet, it's that you told him to just eat. That could mean ANYTHING. Get off my balls about it and give better advice, then I might listen to you.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3320038 - 11/04/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

cornelius is right.

by the way, do you plan on using any meal replacement powders? having to eat so much is fucking HARD.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: bf6]
    #3320464 - 11/04/04 03:34 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not that you told him to eat an unbalanced diet, it's that you told him to just eat. That could mean ANYTHING. Get off my balls about it and give better advice, then I might listen to you.




Since you are a "personal trainer", then surely you realize that in order to gain weight, you need to take in more calories than you burn, correct? A lot of times, (as you should know) when people try to put on muscle, they don't eat nearly as much as they need to, hence they don't grow.

Again, don't say I posted something I did not. I didn't tell him to "just eat". I told him to eat, its a vital part of growing new muscle mass.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: looner2]
    #3320545 - 11/04/04 03:55 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Or how about this................DUH

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Legoulash]
    #3321396 - 11/04/04 07:03 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Crikey guys, drop it. The man's gonna eat and bulk up. Cheers.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: felix]
    #3344843 - 11/11/04 12:27 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

felix, i do enjoy eating ALOT. i love food and my high metabolism makes me hungry pretty much all day. i had dinner about an hour and a half ago and i'm starved again.

i'll keep you guys updated, this is my first week of supplementing my workout w/ ALOT of food. i'll give a weight update in a couple weeks. right now in my regular gym gear (shoes, shorts, and shirt/tank) i hover at around 168-170 lbs.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3345563 - 11/11/04 05:07 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If you've plateaued at certain weights, try this.

Example: exercise (bench press)
1) Move to a lower weight. Considerably.
2) Change your tempo. Take 4 seconds for the bar to come to your chest, don't pause, and take 2 seconds to push it up.
3) Do 10 sets of 10. Notice why I said lower the weight considerably.

This is called German Volume Training, unless I got the 4-0-2 tempo wrong. Its been awhile. From September to December in one year, taking 1g of protein per lb of muscle mass, I put on 20 lbs as well as getting more cut. You may also want to consider glutamine, which is an amino acid that helps workout pain. You'll need it for GVT. I did, and I had been lifting heavy for well over a year straight.

If you don't want to try GVT, do exercises that require a lot of muscles. Clean & jerk, cleans, squats, deadlifts, behind the neck shoulder press, and shrugs. Those are the true mass gaining exercises.

I didn't eat a very well balanced diet, but I ate a healthy one. Ham and eggs (yokes removed every six eggs), ham sandwiches with no mayo or cheese, hard boiled eggs (no yoke), supplemented with protein, hmm.. steaks, hamburgers, etc. Get lean cuts of meat, not fatty steaks. If you're worried about vitamins, well, take a multivitamin.

You don't want too many carbs, because they turn to fat. After working out, you have the "golden hour" in which your body starts repairing the muscles. Carbs (energy) are the cement and protein are the bricks. I'd suggest taking in at least 75-100g of protein and ~30-50 grams of carbs.

If you go 5x a week, here's a good schedule. Never work a large muscle group (chest, back, legs) more than 1 time a week.

Mon: Chest/triceps
Tues: Back/biceps
Wed: Shoulders/Legs
Thurs: Abs, rotator cuff, forearms, lower back.. a miscellaneous day.
Fri: Cardio

If you're feeling that on say, Monday, your triceps aren't getting enough of a workout because you've extended so much energy working your chest, try Chest/biceps and Back/triceps, and make one at the beginning of the week and the other at the end of the week. I could do chest/triceps but my partner couldn't, by the time we were done with chest he was barely working his triceps at all. He bulked them up when he switched.

Either way, good luck.

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edit: IME, nicotine and caffeine have a detrimental effect on muscle growth.

Edited by s2dope (11/11/04 05:08 AM)

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Adden]
    #3348071 - 11/11/04 05:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for the advice s2dope, but i hit each muscle group twice each week (major and minor muscles).  i couldn't in good concience only hit them up once a week :smile:.  also, after a week off i'd get mighty sore.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3348119 - 11/11/04 06:01 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

i think you're kind of like me. i'm a little on the skinny side, but you're not. but i eat alot in the first place...i'm just always eating, like right now. i just made a sandwhich about 2 hrs ago with a big slice of turkey (13g protein - i try to keep a tab on what i'm eating), big fat wheat bread and i even fried up 3 big strips of bacon to put on there along with some cheese and a little mayo. with that i had some chips and salsa.

anyways, i think since i have a kind of high metabolism in the first place, eating to bulk up is even harder. i really have to TRY hard to go over my normal/average amount of calories. i use this stuff called serious mass by optimum nutrition...but i use it sparingly, maybe half, sometimes a quarter of the suggested serving size.

fuck i'm rambling. well, i'm interested in how you stick with it.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Adden]
    #3348351 - 11/11/04 06:52 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I used to take the yolks out of my eggs but I never knew why i was doing it, someone said to.
I don't anymore.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: felix]
    #3349262 - 11/11/04 10:07 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well felix, first of all, i like to eat and i'm always hungry. second, i make really easy stuff like pasta, chicken and rice, burrito stuff, potatoes, vegetables all in bulk so i can reheat whenever i'm hungry. i eat lots of sandwhiches (big pack of deli cuts) and hot dogs and cereal and oatmeal. its all easy stuff and when i cook i make lots so my lazy ass only has to reheat in the microwave. i personally wouldn't go with a weight gain powder(because i'm going for protein)...you must be skinny!! well, i don't know, if you have any q's about working out or anything feel free to ask, i'm no pro but i'm experienced. you probably do want to work out if you are trying to gain weight so i gets proportionally balanced on yourself.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3349349 - 11/11/04 10:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well, since it's so hard for me to hit my calorie goals, i use the weight gainer. plus this weight gainer has a hefty amount protein in there too. i've always been sort of on the lean side...i'm trying to get some more MEAT on my bones. =)

i do work out though...i don't want you guys to think i'm just gorging myself and sitting around on my ass everyday. lol


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Cornelius]
    #3352723 - 11/12/04 04:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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Cornelius said:
If you want to bulk substantially, you're going to have to accept that your abs might dissapear for a little while - but you will get them back when you start the cut phase, and potentially, they will be even better - along with your other muscles.




Why woudl your abs disapear?


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: felix]
    #3353702 - 11/12/04 09:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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felix said:
i do work out though...i don't want you guys to think i'm just gorging myself and sitting around on my ass everyday. lol




well, i have a friend that does exactly that...skin and bones who takes weight gain powder but doesn't excercise, lol.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3357461 - 11/13/04 08:46 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Consume at least one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight each day. For example, if you weight 150 pounds, you should be eating at least 150 grams of protein each and every day.

Consume at least 3 to 4 grams of carbohydrates per pound of bodyweight each day. Make sure that most of these carbohydrates come from complex sources such as pasta, rice, oatmeal, potatoes and yams and fibrous veggies such as broccoli and asparagus. The only time you should be feeding your body fast acting carbs is immediately after your workouts.

No need to starve yourself. If you want to add muscle, you need to consume calorie dense foods such as complex carbs.

Your diet ratio should be 50 to 55% carbohydrates, 25 to 30% protein and 15 to 20% fat. See Will Brink's Muscle Building Nutrition. for a complete break down of optimal nutritional ratios.

Spread your eating over a minimum of five meals per day, taking in at least 30 grams of protein per meal. By spreading out your meals in this fashion will ensure that the nutrients for the muscle building process are constantly being supplied.

Drink allot of water! Try drinking at least one gallon of water per day. Water is essential for building muscle.
Consume more calories. Eat slightly beyond the point of satiety. Remember to eat a big, healthy breakfast.
When boosting your caloric intake, gradually increase the amount of calories over a period of 7 to 10 days. This way, you are using the extra calories as fuel as opposed to storing it as fat. If you find yourself stuck, gradually increase the amount of calories per day.

Eat at least 6 times per day, counting significant snacks such as protein shakes as meals.

You have probably already read tons of stuff like that on the internet. Personally i didn't do much in the way of calorie counting. I just added a large bulk shake and another meal to my diet (mostly chicken and rice).


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3359852 - 11/14/04 12:31 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I'd recommend buying a tape measure and measuring your bicep, your chest, and your waist line. Then you can see how quickly you are putting the mass on where you want it and stripping it off where you don't want it. I love lifting and I know a great deal about it, feel free to send me a PM with any questions that you may have.

Three important things
1) WATER - Drink it non-stop. At least 5 liters a day of real unadulterated water. I can't stress this enough

2) Stretch- Every morning, before every workout session and every evening is ideal. But you really want to stretch before and after hitting the weights. This can pull the muscle tissue that you just damaged by lifting and cause it to grow back even stronger. Also, an injury that keeps you out of the gym for 2 months is a horrible disaster.

3) PROPER FORM! - Again, I can't stress this enough. I see people doing "french curles" in the gym and just wonder if they know how badly those can fuck up their elbows. Learn proper form from a personal trainer and feel free to run the exercizes by your family doctor so he can give you some advice.

As I said, anything else, feel free to ask.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: SoopaX]
    #3359900 - 11/14/04 12:40 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

hmm very interesting thread for me.

im like only 155 pounds, but i like my body, i got very good muscle definition , great strength and a killer six pack but i too would like to bulk up, so some stuff here is interesting me.

First of all, "Don't be sad when your definition is gone and your six-packs are put in the fridge" are you saying you cant bulk up without losing defintion and a six pack? cuz if so fuck that i love my six pack and girls like the cut look, so i wouldnt sacrafice that. but surely thats not nescessary?

next, about the advice someone gave, said on the bench press move down wieght alot and do 10 reps or 10... sounds interesting, personally i can lift shitloads of wieght on the bench press but i dont seem to bulk up much from it. So maybe theres something to it, but that goes totally contradictory to what ive heard which is for bulk you want maximum wieght and minimum reps, no?

and why only work out major muscle groups once a week? i usually only give it a day of rest between workouts or each muscle group, is that not enough?


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3366078 - 11/15/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

working out every other day might be fine in the first six months but eventually you will be over trained and get all weak.
Also when you get stronger you will not have the stamina to give your legs or back a real good workout with only one days rest between. You need to really pummel the muscles in to submission when you do work out and when you do that you will not want to train more than once or twice a week.

Consider that your arms get worked when you do heavy back work, and your triceps when you do chest work etc. One day a week for the majors is enough, trust me on that one.
And yeah you can bulk up and keep the six pack, just not as fast.

Its late and i dont have the time to write more stuff.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3371142 - 11/16/04 08:17 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

hmmm 5 ft 10 and 165 doesn't sound so bad.
This is me 7 weeks ago at 6 ft 1 inch and 185 pounds approx 7% bf
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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: lucid]
    #3373100 - 11/17/04 08:02 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Nice back! You're bf definitely seems higher than 7%, kinda hard to tell from the pics though.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: lucid]
    #3374933 - 11/17/04 03:37 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well i'm not really that skinny...i have the trianglular shaped back and definition it. i also have pretty thick arms for my size and a pretty chizeled set of pecks and abs as well as those hip things the girlies like. i want to increase the size of my shoulders and neck as well as everything else really. also, i want the strength that goes with this all and i've heard that eating/bulking up leads to the heavier plates.

also, my routine of major muscle groups twice each week hasn't proved me wrong yet and i've been doing this pretty religiously for a couple years and off and on throughout the entirety of high school. i go for power when i work out, that is, about 8-12 reps per set and then increase weights until i can only to a couple. this also hasn't yet proved me wrong.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3374943 - 11/17/04 03:39 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If you want size+strength, have you heard of "westside for skinny bastards"... its geared towards strength for athletes along with mass building... do a search on the internet and you'll find it.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3382593 - 11/19/04 01:11 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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TODAY said:
any shroomy weight lifters ever try this? let me know how it went or even if you want to work alongside me!!




I did basically what you plan on doing. In ten months i gained 40 lbs. Recently i have lost 10 pounds of what i am hoping is mainly fat. I used a high protein high carb low fat diet and it worked quite well. Lately i have been falling back into depression and my motivation has really dropped. I think i might lose what i worked 10 months for.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Druginduced]
    #3383860 - 11/19/04 11:21 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

don't loose it rydawg, you know you don't want to do that...also...check your thread, i replied to it.

um, problem is now i think i might have mononucleosis...this might be a setback.

rydawg, what did you eat for protein? i'm on the same high protein high carb diet but for protein i'm basically eating a lot of ground beef (spaghetti and meatsauce) and i know that's not the best stuff for you.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3384974 - 11/19/04 03:11 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Mono sounds like it can be pretty harsh, and the tiredness could definetly be a motivation killer. Motivation is the most important part of making any progress on your body. I would suggest waiting until you are back in perfect health to start your bulking up regimen, or if you really want to start NOW you could use caffeine to boost you when you feel too tired to hit the gym.

AS for what i ate, first off I ate a ton of food. About 3600-4000 calories a day. Ground beef is good for you if it is lean (like 93% lean or higher) You can also buy ground turkey which is very lean, although i never ate that myself. I ate a ton of chicken, salmon (has healthy fish fats), lowfat milk, lowfat cottage cheese, oatmeal, wheat spaghetti on occasion, whey protein after workouts (along with dextrose) steak on occasion. Cottage cheese and milk are good for eating at night, when your body will be deprived of protein for 8 or so hours. Protein in cottage cheese and milk is slow digesting, so it provides protein to your body for quite a while. I also had a cheat meal once a week, which would usally be chinese food, subway, fast food hamburgers, or pizza.

The greatest benefit of working out was how I felt physically. I always had lower back pain but that is compeltely gone. And I just have an overall feeling of healthiness in my body. Also it is fun when in mosh pits, being able to throw a crowd surfer up into the air by your self.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Druginduced]
    #3384982 - 11/19/04 03:13 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

oh and i forgot to mention EGGS!

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3388004 - 11/20/04 05:29 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

There seem to be a lot of people in this thread who know what they're taking about. Everything i wanted to say has already been said but the most important i'll stress. Most important is protein. S2dope i think said to get 1gram/lb. of body weight and that is your key. Get more if you can but putting that much down is tough. Without protein you won't gain shit. You need to pick a workout for what you want to do with yourself (put on mass). Everyone has their own "best workouts" but thats them and you're you. I read somewhere that your results are 70%diet/30%workout. Drink a gallon of H2o a day. Get plenty of rest. Don't overtrain, you don't want to do all the hard work in vein. OK, just my 2 cents. Goodluck and let us know how it goes.

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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: Druginduced]
    #3394578 - 11/21/04 08:35 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

good advice rydawg...haha, putting up the crowd surfer by yourself, i can't wait!! yeah, i'll be posting my gains and such but i'm going to have to wait and see if i have mono or not too.


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Re: gonna bulk up [Re: TODAY]
    #3398591 - 11/23/04 01:34 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well i just weighed in with my regular gym gear at 172, but i did eat a couple of chicken/sausage sandwiches not too long before.


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