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E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!!
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who else has switched to either rolling your own injecting or switching to duty free. eva is bad news! they already put enough chemicals in there to grow a third arm. let alone this shit. tell your friends and family, if you cant stop smoking. at least switch to a more pure form of tobacco. please stop smoking fsc cigarettes. (fire,safe,compliant)i'll add a little info. but google is your friend on this one. fsc cigarettes are bad news. eva is ethylene vinyl acetate. basically carpet glue!! there is 2 bands added on every cigarette manufactured in the usa since around 2010. smoke a cigarette without eva for a week, then try to smoke one with it or be around someone who is smoking one. you will want to vomit! i've smoked 2-3 packs a day for almost 10 years. now i roll my own. i smoke half as less. now more stomach aches. facial skin has cleared up, and my chest doesn't hurt in the morning anymore. pre manufactured cigarettes are truly death sticks. if you cant quit or just enjoy smoking like me. roll or inject your own my friends. The governments own material data saftey sheet clearly states eva is not safe to be burned!!!!! we are being used as guinea pigs. you can read the u.s department of health and human services-household products database and be floored by the items eva is used in. everything from walling to paint and eye liner make up for women.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_safe_cigarette



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene-vinyl_acetate

http://tobacco-information.bhp.doh.gov.tw/Information/Ethylene%20vinyl%20acetate%20copolymer%20%E4%B9%99%E7%83%AF-%E9%86%8B%E9%85%B8%E4%B9%99%E7%83%AF%E9%85%AF%E5%85%B1%E8%81%9A%E7%89%A9%20MSDS.pdf

take this thread with a grain of salt if you wish. But from my own personal experience i can tell you. i believe it.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: kingoffungi]
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How much would it cost me for some nice tobacco papers and a rolling machine ?


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: eltonjohn]
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lol when fire safety came to my state I just switched to menthol

Under 10 dollars dude above me. For some bugler and papers. Or you could get a tube machine. Either way under 10

Edited by OGTubs (01/03/12 02:34 PM)

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: eltonjohn]
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eltonjohn said:
How much would it cost me for some nice tobacco papers and a rolling machine ?


I wouldn't even bother getting a rolling machine man.
Unless you have no fine motor skills it would be pretty easy for you to learn. I would just get a friend who can roll to sit down with you for about half an hour and learn it's really quite easy.

As for papers less than a dollar definitely


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: OGTubs]
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I was really pissed when my state switched to FSC cigarettes a few years ago.

They don't taste right,  Go out when I'm holding them,  make me smoke faster, and are harsher on the throat.

In ten years of smoking normal cigarettes I never once lit anything on fire I did not intend to.

The first week of smoking FSC I had two ashtrays light on fire from butts that magically re-lit.


Their statistics are bullshit too.
Rates of smoking related fires have dropped everywhere due to fewer people smoking , better education and fire proof couches and bedding.


For a while I was getting the European smokes off the internet, they came with a tax stamp from the Republic of Moldova.  They were prety good (and cheap) but the post office keeps leaving them outside where they get stolen.

Time to just quit but I hate giving the fuckers the satisfaction.

Edited by Beefy1 (01/03/12 02:41 PM)

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Beefy1]
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WHAT!!! cigarettes are bad for you?!?!?!?!?
This is an OUTRAGE!  we need to get the message out quick before someone gets cancer!!!!!!!!

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: eltonjohn]
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eltonjohn said:
How much would it cost me for some nice tobacco papers and a rolling machine ?



depending where you are, what you buy, will dtermine price. i get laramie king size cigarette tubes made in switerzland, from my local head shop for 2.99 per carton they contain 250 cigarette tubes. the cheapest injector you can buy is like 5-6 bucks i think. depending on how nice you want your gonna spend 10-60 bucks for a injector, rollers are cheaper. i have settled on just regular drum tobacco. they run about 8-10 dollars per pouch where i live for a 1 ounce pouch. i can get about 2 and a halfs packs worth from one pouch. so your looking at about 3-6 dollars per carton of tubes. plus tobacco. google or youtube ryo cigarettes or roll your own. i've been fsc cigarette free since September and i could never go back.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: jim617]
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anything that burns contains carcinogens. its just i'd rather smoke pure tobacco with all the unneeded extra poison:) but you are 100% right there is no good cigarettes only less worse.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: kingoffungi]
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EVA is just one of the many nasty chemicals that could be emphasized in cigs. I'm sure that rolling your own is immeasurably better for you than buying pre-rolled cigarettes but even then it's a bad habit.

I hated the switch to FSC. I used to smoke Marlboros and when I noticed the FSC I switched to Newports which seemed to be FSC-free for a while afterwards until eventually everything now is FSC.

It's ridiculous to think the government condones cigarettes and all the toxic chemicals and health risks associated with pre-rolled cigarettes. But the fed gov absolutely prohibits marijuana.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Superide]
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Superide said:
EVA is just one of the many nasty chemicals that could be emphasized in cigs. I'm sure that rolling your own is immeasurably better for you than buying pre-rolled cigarettes but even then it's a bad habit.

I hated the switch to FSC. I used to smoke Marlboros and when I noticed the FSC I switched to Newports which seemed to be FSC-free for a while afterwards until eventually everything now is FSC.

It's ridiculous to think the government condones cigarettes and all the toxic chemicals and health risks associated with pre-rolled cigarettes. But the fed gov absolutely prohibits marijuana.



Here Here.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Superide]
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Superide said:
It's ridiculous to think the government condones cigarettes and all the toxic chemicals and health risks associated with pre-rolled cigarettes. But the fed gov absolutely prohibits marijuana.


Absolutely. Now let's overthrow those idiotic corrupt mother fuckers.


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Devlish2]
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cigerrattes are population control. and damn effective too.


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: kingoffungi]
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EVA polymer.. the soles of my flip flops are made of that. Seriously thats no good to smoke.

I switched to CFL - Cigarette Free Living. Quit smoking a month and a half ago, I'm so much healthier already :heart:


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Edited by Asante (01/03/12 04:52 PM)

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Salomon]
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Salomon said:
cigerrattes are population control. and damn effective too.


oh yeah :stoned:


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Salomon]
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ever since fsc, ive had cigarettes whose cherry falls out randomly, and cigs that have started on fire when i light them. this never happened to me before fsc

anyone else experienced this?


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: ima kitten]
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ima kitten said:
ever since fsc, ive had cigarettes whose cherry falls out randomly, and cigs that have started on fire when i light them. this never happened to me before fsc

anyone else experienced this?


they will shoot sparks too when you re-light them.

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: ima kitten]
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ima kitten said:
ever since fsc, ive had cigarettes whose cherry falls out randomly, and cigs that have started on fire when i light them. this never happened to me before fsc

anyone else experienced this?


Only when I light them before they're dry after dipping them in embalming fluid.  :shrug:


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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: unknown1123]
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Haven't they been using EVA for adhesive long before FSC standards?

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Re: E.V.A in cigarettes fsc is no GOOD!!!!!!! [Re: Katzenjammer]
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Katzenjammer said:
Haven't they been using EVA for adhesive long before FSC standards?


Yep.

Even '100% natural' brands like American Spirit use EVA to glue the seam together and to stick the filter on.

I don't know how much more EVA you're getting witht the two 'speed bumps' added.

Anybody know any rolling papers that don't use EVA for the gum?

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