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birthing question
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i just birthed 2 cakes into my ter. with perlite and a light. But the 1 isnt totally covering the bottom, it slowed towards the end but the other 1 finished 2 days ago. Does this pose a problem besides a lil' less pins?

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Re: birthing question [Re: scottshrooms]
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yes, if u birth a uncolonized cake u r 100% certain to get contams, cut off all of the uncolonized substrate from the cake


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Re: birthing question [Re: MykeOfile]
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its only a lil bit on the very middle, of the bottom of the cake. So i cant really cut it out. And it will still get contams even if the sides r all colonized? Should i add a lil peroxide to the perlite?

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Re: birthing question [Re: MykeOfile]
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cut off all of the uncolonized substrate from the cake


My buddy agrees...Next time turn that cake upside down before birthing it. That will allow the excess CO2 to drain giving the uncolonized part room to finish growth.

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Re: birthing question [Re: Perk]
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so i should be all right this time though since its just a little right?

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Re: birthing question [Re: scottshrooms]
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When my buddy started this little hooby of ours he had undercolonized cakes do fine without help. However, more often than not this situation will cause more trouble than its worth to birth that cake too soon. If you start to suspect somthin' went bad, isolate it quickly.

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Re: birthing question [Re: MykeOfile]
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yes, if u birth a uncolonized cake u r 100% certain to get contams, cut off all of the uncolonized substrate from the cake





That's not true. I once had a 90% colonized cake that started to pin in vitro. I was force to birth it early and had 2 healthy flushes before it started to contam.

So you could be fine with this cake assuming you have a clean terrarium and a little more sterile techniques when birthing compared to the simple technique required when birthing a 100% colonized cake. The extra precautions could be just a safe bet but it's not true your cake is doomed.


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Re: birthing question [Re: fIsh in my head]
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Hold up. There is some wrong information being typed in this thread. Cakes don't have to be 100% colonized before birthing. It is best if they are 90% or higher, but a little bit on the bottom is not going to ruin the cake. Many cakes have been birthed before being 100% colonized and produced just fine.


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Re: birthing question [Re: moldmaster]
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thanks for the help people, i'll keep an eye on it and see where it goes.

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Re: birthing question [Re: scottshrooms]
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Ok, i hate to say it but you guys were right. I just noticed that the top that was uncolonized has a greenish mold starting on it. I cut off the spot completely, inside and out. Should i put it in a seperate ter. to incubate longer to recover or in the fruit phase again? Moving too quick into the fruiting is what caused this in the first place, so should i back it up to incubating again to strengthen the myc.?

P.S.- Is casing a better shot than cakes?
Cause i have gone through several with 2 contams, a couple of good cakes, and noooooo pins! Everything gets screwed up around the fruiting stage!

HELP!

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Re: birthing question [Re: scottshrooms]
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I disagree with the 90% thing, especially for people new to cultivation. Contams pose as a huge risk, and if your cake isnt done on the outside, its very unlikely that it is done on the inside. Without proper safety and sterility, they wi ll almost certainly contam. If i were you, i would salvage the remaining mycelium, you will lose some for sure, i would be generous with it also, its better to make sure you lose the contam than to lose your whole casing to it. Then with what you saved, try and case that. Most people have thier problems at the fruiting stage. Remember: try to keep the cakes/casing t about 85 when colonizing, then for fruiting, raise humidity to 90%+ drop the temp to about 75, and mist/fan every day for moisture and airflow. If they still have problems pinning, try and cold shock them. They may take longer than expected though, some of my friends casings have taken up to 2 weeks to pin, but when they did, they pinned like a motherfucker.

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Re: birthing question [Re: tak_old]
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The only reason you are more likely to get contams when a cake isn't fully colonized is because the uncolonized sub section of the cake provides a ripe place for bacteria to grow when not already colonized with mycelium. You could probably take a cake that was 50% colonized and assuming you could cutt off the part that had the mycelium on it and case that or something, you could have an ok chance of having a successful casing.


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