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pop culture references to mushrooms
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So I'd never really listened to an eminem record until a few days ago. Of course I've heard his singles on the radio, but not the other songs... anyway, I got to listen to "my fault" a song about a girl who takes too many mushrooms. this isn't the only place that eminem talks about shrooms thought, there are several other references throughout the cd.
Now, I think that the perspective that eminem's music communicates is really important (the marginalized, uneducated) and totally appreciate his considerable musical talent, but I don't think that he's really all that in the know when it comes to the shroomies. He lumps them with other drugs, and doesn't see the possibility of helping the girl in the song. instead, he's convinced that a hospital visit is unavoidable. it's cool that he notes the drastic change of awareness ("didn't mean to take you to my world"), but he doesn't seem to realize the implications of this drastic change.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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she dies in the end too.  my friend played that to prove a point that shrooms are bad, because i'm so stoked on them that I sometimes will blab about my experiences (especially when I'm stoned).  My response: yea eminem is a great source for info  :smirk:


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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He's just telling a story. Its a song and he's trying to get the right words to make another hit, thats all his songs are about.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: DailyPot]
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that song pisses me off... it births more negativity about our Shroomies


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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see, I think that it may be that his current persona is the way it is because it sells records, but I don't think that it started out that way. before eminem it you wouldn't expect that a white guy with a nasally voice who talks about being a loser would become a hip hop star... it's like the interlude on the record where the company exec says something like "dre is rapping about bitches and blunts, you're rapping about vicodin and homosexuals".
I think that his sucess is a sign of something more profound... something about what needs to be expressed, all the frustration of people caught in the same bullshit that marshal mathers was in... if people listen to this kind of thing, maybe they'll start making connections between their votes and social justice.

so I don't think that mushroom misinformation is a result of eminem, but that his attitude is reflective of most kids.

I've found that there's this very esoteric mystique around psychedelic drugs for young people; it's like this huge secret that not many people really understand. I think that references to lsd or mushrooms confuse the fuck out of kids. the expectations that kids hold when they first trip or roll on x can really wig me out sometimes.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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I liked the Smurfs reference to Mushrooms:

Old man Gargamel was walking through the forest one day when he discovered a mushroom patch.

After uhh.. "closer examination, :wink:" he realized that little blue men live in these mushrooms!! Since this was such an amazing discovery, he HAD to try and capture at least one of these little blue men so he could show it to his friends to prove he wasn't completely insane.

Unfortunately for old man Gargemel, the little blue men, or "smurfs," only existed in his shroomed-out mind.

:smile:


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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you can OD on some types of shrooms tho? not cubes, but there are types you can ...


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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or perhaps she was having a panic attack and died of a heart attack or something??


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
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or perhaps enimen is a fuckin idiot


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
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If you ingest the WRONG type of shrooms (poisonous) then yes, it can kill you. Not by ODing, but by poison. If you ingested the right shrooms (psilocybin), then good luck trying to kill yourself on those.

Edited by Sheepish (05/11/03 09:23 PM)

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Sheepish]
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but is it possible if she ate 22 caps, she couldve had the worst trip ever (she was fucked up , wasnt she? raped yadi yada)...that she couldve just died from the stress or whatever?


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
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yeah, I've heard really weird stories about lsd overdose... I can't really believe them, or stories of cubensis od.... cause I've taken a bunch of drugs in various mixtures and amounts, and I'm still here... It seems that people "dying" of pyschedelics are all just urban legends.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
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LOL The odds of dying from stress on a bad trip is VERY minimal. In order to OD, you would need to ingest something like 6 times your body weight in shrooms. The danger on a bad trip is doing something you will regret (hurting yourself, killing yourself, etc). Psilocybin alone will not cause you to die. The toxicology of shrooms is lower than aspirin for fucks sake.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Sheepish]
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perhaps eminem is a fuckin idiot with more influence than he knows what to do with


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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erm.. correct me if I'm wrong, but in that song he says that she's drinking lysol at one point.
I'm have no medical background, but I would think that would probably have more to do with her death in the song than anything..
just at thought.

-ol

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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George Harrisons song about eating mushrooms in hawaii:

I ate it and at once my eyes could see you
No sooner had I ooped it down
I felt so far off from the ground I stood on.

My legs they seemed to me like high-rise buildings
My head was high up in the sky
My skin the sun began to fry like bacon.

And then somebody old appeared and asked had I come far . . .
And hadn't they just seen me up on Haleakala . . .
I kept on body surfing to pretend I hadn't heard
There was someone there beside me, swimming like Richard III
And I'm still smiling

Seven naked native girls swam seven sacred pools . . .
Lone-ranger smoking doobies said you're breaking all the rules . . .
You'd better get your clothes on or else there'll be a row . . .
If it wasn't for my sunstroke I would take you on right now . . .
And I'm still smiling.

I fell in love with my Soft-Hearted Hana
She entered right in through my heart
And now although we're miles apart
I still feel her.

She lives beneath the crater in the meadow
She moves among the fruit and grain
You can meet her after heavy rain has fallen.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Xlea321]
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Pop culture and shrooms do not mix. If shrooming was introduced into mainstream music, their entire corperate scheme would collapse.

Just a thought


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Great Scott]
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ha that's an interesting thought :smile:


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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Mushroom Cult by Dog Fashion Disco

Mushroom Cult.
Kaleidoscope of love.
Ophidians dance as the shifting occurs.
We are stars and electric animals.
Nurtured by the mothers of prostitutes.

Floating in a mushroom universe.
Swimming in a sea of cyclostomes.
And as we surface through the tide,
You open up and I come inside.

I must be in limbo,
?Cos purgatory?s always felt like home.

And as the world spins round and round,
We fornicate upon the cotton clouds.
That rain down sulphur smiles
On the children at play in the poppy fields.

Sinking for what seems like forever.
Like Atlantis into the sea.
To forget the shore and wash away,
Wash away my memory.

I must be in limbo,
?Cos purgatory?s always felt like home.

Inside the moon lives the high priest of the mushroom cult.
Upon the altar are the ashes of the Pharisees.
I sold my soul,
Sold my soul,
Sold my soul away.
I?m free of guilt,
Free of sin,
Free of everything!


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Sheepish]
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What do ya'll think about that Jefferson Airplane song? Damned if I can find the lyrics right now...

Have some of these purple berries,
I've been eating them for six or seven weeks now,
Havent got sick once....
They'll probably keep us both alive....


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
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White Rabbit

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all.
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small.
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low.
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know.
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead,
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen says "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head"

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
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The song is wooden ships by David Crosby of Crosby Stills Nash and Young.

Was also recorded by the Airplanbe.

mj

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: mjshroomer]
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Thats it! Now I remember....
Wooden ships on the water....

Smart cookie you are....


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Oscuro_lobo]
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Quote:
erm.. correct me if I'm wrong, but in that song he says that she's drinking lysol at one point.
I'm have no medical background, but I would think that would probably have more to do with her death in the song than anything..
just at thought.

-ol


She dies because of the lysol, not the shrooms. I would agree though, his statements do spread misinformation.

And for the people who don't give EM any credit, your just trying to turn a blind eye to the fact that he is indeed very talented. If you deny that fact you are just trying to fool yourself.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: slime_R]
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Eminem is smart, he know's how to portray himself and to "sell" himself to the right corporate producers, but I don't think he has too much talent.  Anybody who can write poetry, and with the help of approx $150,000 in mixing equipment ( the same shit that makes backstreet boy's, n-sync.. sound good) and with a friend that owns his own record company can produce some cool sounding songs and get them sold.  But I would say he does not have any real talent.  He cannot even hold a steady note ( CD: The Eminem Show, Song 14 "Hailies song"  he sounds like air expelling out of a dead cat )  The one thing I will give him credit for is the quiet noises in the background, or his overdubs.  When tripping I notice them and they do trip me out and it accents the song, but sober his music is hard to listen to Imo. 

There, I feel better after that rant :grin: 


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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thats pretty funny considering most eminem fans would say hes best at freestyle.... but...okay...


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
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Honestly I have not heard any of his freestyle lyrics so I cannot speak for that. I have a few friends in the music industry and when I go down to play on their equipment at their place I can usually create similar beats or better (imo) within 15 minutes and all somebody has to do is just put some word's in there and you have the same quality shit eminem sells in the local record store. I don't have any strong musical talents other than I can read sheet music because of playing the piano as a kid. It does not take talent to make a beat these day's, and judging by his lyrics it don't take too much talent to make his style of song's.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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well if what you say is true flush, that its cause of the equipment and being friends with dr dre...then how come dr dre is no where near as popular as eminem? obviously hes doing something right...wheather it be his music talent or his marketing skills

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: ]
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I am not saying that the equipment is making him popular, he know's what the public want's to hear so he creates the lyrics to suit his public, unfortunately there is an abundance of his type( thug's and thug wanabees ) who would love to hear what he is talking about. It does not take talent to make a rhyme about killing a ex girl, or about how shitty life is. Talk is cheap, anybody can do it. But to be able to convey a message that challenges the listener to think and analyze the meaning and do it thew song that they created to suit the lyrics takes talent. I don't think talent is bitching about hard times to a shitty techno beat a shaved ape could create. But then again talent is in the eye of the beholder..


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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yeah, well, you obviously don't know anything about rap music mr flush.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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yeah, well, you obviously don't know anything about rap music mr flush.



I actually have 3 of Eminem's CD's, The up in smoke tour video, 2 of Dre's CD's, I use to listen to all of it almost religiously but then I grew up.  I still like rap, but I listen to more "authentic" rap like Killa Klan Kaze, 36 mafia, DJ Paul, Krucifix, and koopsta knicca.  When I say authentic I mean they tell stories of their life, not fabricated idea's of revenge.  I have been listening to rap for 5 years now and for some reason I just got fed up with the sound of Aftermath records.  the same produced shit over and over..  But to get back on topic I don't  think that drug references should be made in this type of music ( eminem, dre, 50cent, whoever ) because of the audience.  It is influential as much as they try to defend their music and I think it was a great idea to put lyric warnings on the labels.  People should be more informed about what they are hearing but it is up to them to figure it out. 

BTW, if anybody want's to continue the eminem debate, PM me and I will be glad to give you my opinion :wink: 


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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damn, flush just schooled you man... koopsta knicca

somebody knows what they're talkin' about!

but I don't really think Eminem portrays any sort of thug image, considering he usually raps about he got beat the shit out of as a kid... I enjoyed Eminem up until his third CD. I enjoy the overly-offensive music, I think as the world turns by him is one of the best songs I've ever heard.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SizzlinJ]
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I actually find eninems music for the most part thought provoking...his music seems honest(tho it may not be) which is more than I can say for most ganster wannabe rap stars...but your point is taken flush

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: ]
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go download the song "infinite"

after that, if you still think he sucks, then you think he sucks, but you might cange your mind.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
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The problem is that for those who haven't tried shrooms (mainstream culture), it's hard to understand them. Shrooms have always been somewhat inexplainable, and since most people are too afraid to try them, they'll never know.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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Flush, chech out the 8-mile dvd. They have a contest between all the extras in the crowd for a chance to rap in the movie. Some of them are decent I guess. But at the end of it, when they get to flow with em, he tears them apart. Especially when he raps with the girl. Damn he rips on her. I almost felt bad for her.

It really is a skill and freestyling takes a lot of talent.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: slime_R]
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unfortunately its not shroom-related at all


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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strumpling, i agree, he does not give shrooms the right treatment as far as how he talks about them, but hell, whatever. He does what he does, I dont even like his shit anymore.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: domite]
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In the movie Wallstreet, Charlie Sheen is talking about a painting, "that would look good... yeah if you are on mushrooms!"



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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: pattern]
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that sounds kind of negative


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: pattern]
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All this talk of eminem reminds me of his equally shitty predecessor, Vanilla Ice. I heard a vanilla ice song the other day, 'Ice Ice Baby' (for some reason it seems to have become semi-popular again amongst the jock crowd)...anyway I heard something about a mushroom in there so I just looked up the lyrics and I see that a lot of bits in this song has a weird sort of anti drug vibe, then he cracks out the lines like 'If my rhyme was a drug, i'd sell it by the gram' and other such egotistical eminem style 'Look! We're ripping you off, you stupid consumers, and I'm so fucking cool thats why you like me' kinda stuff....anyway here's the lyrics if anyone is interested...I have made bits that I think are drug references or just sound sort of drug-ish in italics...

"Ice Ice Baby"

Yo, VIP, Let's kick it!

Ice Ice Baby, Ice Ice Baby
All right stop, Collaborate and listen
Ice is back with my brand new invention
Something grabs a hold of me tightly
Then I flow like a harpoon daily and nightly
Will it ever stop? Yo -- I don't know
Turn off the lights and I'll glow
To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal
Light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.

Dance, Bum rush the speaker that booms
I'm killing your brain like a poisonous mushroom
Deadly, when I play a dope melody
Anything less than the best is a felony
Love it or leave it, You better gain way
You better hit bull's eye, The kid don't play
If there was a problem, Yo, I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it

Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla

Now that the party is jumping
With the bass kicked in, the Vegas are pumpin'
Quick to the point, to the point no faking
I'm cooking MCs like a pound of bacon
Burning them if they're not quick and nimble
I go crazy when I hear a cymbal
And a hi hat with a souped up tempo
I'm on a roll and it's time to go solo
Rollin' in my 5.0
With my ragtop down so my hair can blow
The girlies on standby, Waving just to say Hi
Did you stop? No -- I just drove by
Kept on pursuing to the next stop
I busted a left and I'm heading to the next block
That block was dead

Yo -- so I continued to A1A Beachfront Ave.
Girls were hot wearing less than bikinis
Rockman lovers driving Lamborghinis
Jealous 'cause I'm out geting mine
Shay with a gauge and Vanilla with a nine
Reading for the chumps on the wall
The chumps acting ill because they're so full of "Eight Ball"
Gunshots ranged out like a bell
I grabbed my nine -- All I heard were shells
Falling on the concrete real fast
Jumped in my car, slammed on the gas
Bumper to bumper the avenue's packed
I'm trying to get away before the jackers jack
Police on the scene, You know what I mean
They passed me up, confronted all the dope fiends
If there was a problem, You, I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it

Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla

Take heed, 'cause I'm a lyrical poet
Miami's on the scene just in case you didn't know it
My town, that created all the bass sound
Enough to shake and kick holes in the ground
'Cause my style's like a chemical spill
Feasible rhymes that you can vision and feel
Conducted and formed, This is a hell of a concept
We make it hype and you want to step with this
Shay plays on the fade, slice like a ninja
Cut like a razor blade so fast, Other DJs say, "damn"
If my rhyme was a drug, I'd sell it by the gram
Keep my composure when it's time to get loose
Magnetized by the mic while I kick my juice
If there was a problem, Yo -- I'll solve it!
Check out the hook while Deshay revolves it.

Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla
Ice Ice Baby Vanilla, Ice Ice Baby Vanilla

Yo man -- Let's get out of here! Word to your mother!

Ice Ice Baby Too cold, Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold
Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold, Ice Ice Baby Too cold Too cold

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: zee_werp]
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killing my brain? EFF YOU, ICE!


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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He says poisonous mushroom.... sooo....  :wink:

Edited by ShroomyJ (05/14/03 04:21 AM)

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: zee_werp]
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LOL shit... man I never really knew the lyrics to that song.

BTW, He totally ripped that riff off some song 'under pressure'

erm, well I was watching something about vanilla ice, I think it was 'one hit wonders' or something on VH1 and they had a snippet of an interview with vanilla ice where he's like "Oh, I didn't rip that riff... that song is dadada da dada and mine is dadada dada dada"... well it's kinda hard to say in writing LOL (unless you people can read music, cuz I could write it out)


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: wyldtouch69]
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I definitely agree that the song is ripped off...whenever i hear under pressure starting I always think its gonna be ice ice baby :laugh:

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: ]
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Eminem is good at what he does which is rhyming, his music doesn't really talk about anything extremely important most of the time.

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: MagicalMushies]
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I don't think you understand...Em can write some pretty dope lyrics. His multi-syllable word play is off the wall sometimes. But the thing is, there are so many underground cats that are way better than him, they just don't get the same recognition. My friend Brandon would probably beat eminem in a battle, Brandon's fuckin' insane on the mic. But he's just doin his thing on the local underground level. And that's the way it is.

But ya... Infinite is em's best album. He didn't use 150,000 dollars worth of equipment to make it either. It was a low level release with a low budget. If you think that equipment has EVERYTHING to do with the quality of music, then you are definitely wrong. My friends make beats with Casio keyboards and Fruity Loops that bring way more heat than some drum machine/sampler made beats. And it takes production skills to use all the equipment. Someone has to add a little reverb to that, increase the attack and decrease the decay on this, etc. I doubt you could just walk up in a multi hundred thousand dollar studio and make an ill track, beats and vocals. Whoever was doubting eminem's skills really doesn't know much about hip hop, at all.

In fact, i don't even listen to Eminem that much, because there are emcees way iller than him. I heard an interview with eminem, where he said something like "Nah, i just write a bunch of throw away lines, record em, and put em on the album...but when it comes to real hip hop, you know i'm still coming hard".

Check out:
Cunninlynguists
Louis Logic
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mr. Lif
Super Natural
MC Juice
Eyedea
Elevated Elements
Prose & Concepts
Styles of Beyond
Binary Star
Hieroglyphics (Del and Pep Love have solo shit as well)

There are just too many to mention
Also, if you wanna see what the Northwest is all about, go here www.nwexplosion.com


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Great Scott]
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Man, the band 'Incubus' is all over MTV right now with their pop/alt-metal stuff, but they used to be a hippie funk-rock band. Their first album is called 'Fungus Amongus' and it has a big picture of an amanita muscaria on it. They have a song on it called psychopsilocybin.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Great Scott]
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If you think that equipment has EVERYTHING to do with the quality of music, then you are definitely wrong. My friends make beats with Casio keyboards and Fruity Loops that bring way more heat than some drum machine/sampler made beats. And it takes production skills to use all the equipment. Someone has to add a little reverb to that, increase the attack and decrease the decay on this, etc. I doubt you could just walk up in a multi hundred thousand dollar studio and make an ill track, beats and vocals. Whoever was doubting eminem's skills really doesn't know much about hip hop, at all.



Lol, You really missed what I was trying to say. I will clarify once more, and feel free to ask any questions about my post's. Eminem does have skills at making rhymes. He can make a beat ( just like anybody else with the software you suggested) But he does not use any of his talent in his music. He writes his music to sell to a target audience. He targets teen age white suburbia, to all of the misguided teens around the states. He did have skills when he was on the streets, but now he learned that in order to make the millions you have to preform what sells. I consider this type of behavior typical of a sell out as well(but this is my problem, not yours so don't get all defensive about it). This happens quite often in the music industry, just look at Back street Boy's, N-sync, 98 degrees. They are all produced as well. Just because Slim puts a few extra tracks in his CD's where he get's bitched at by his producer does not mean that is how it happened, He was probably suggested the idea by some of Aftermath's(Interscope at the time of his first albums) market research team after they analyzed his music and decided how best to sell him. I am not saying this is how it happened but I have seen similar marketing strategies used before in my experience. All in all, he is just another corporate slave.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Demiurge]
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Xzibit - Shrooms

"Now chew em up and slam the orange juice/
vitamin C chase/ kill the taste/
you can tell it's nasty by the look on my face"





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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
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you're missing the point of eminem. he lived with his mom till he was 23. he is speaking to the demographic to which he belongs. do you criticise mariyn manson, all of punk rock, jam bands, etc, because they make music that appeals to there audience? if eminem was such a sellout, he would've made more self depreciating, catchy and formulaic songs like "my name is". instead, he made a record full of what he felt, then added the catchy single later (real slim shady) to please the higher ups. I think that people who talk shit about eminem are just suffering from penis envy. and since when are MC's responsible for making their own beats?


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
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Man, flush i agree with you. Eminem is selling out. What i'm saying is that he still has skill. Mystikal, Ja Rule, etc. are sell outs, and they never had and probably never will have skill.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Great Scott]
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Terry Pratchett, Small Gods.

Quote:

"Any mushrooms in these parts?" said Brutha innocently.

St. Ungulant nodded happily.

"After the annual rains, yes. Red ones with yellow spots. The desert becomes really interesting after the mushroom season."

"Full of giant purple singing slugs? Talking pillars of flame? Exploding giraffes? That sort of thing?" said Brutha carefully.

"Good heavens, yes," said the saint. "I don't know why. I think they're attracted by the mushrooms."




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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: tooky]
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Tenacious D - Jesus Ranch

It was a big day on Jesus Ranch, Jesus Ranch.
He was harvesting a big tomato, it was in the sand, alright.
I'm taking a walk in the woods, and it's nice outside.
Smells of shit, Liga Guinggligagiggagoogoogwillgo.
I come upon a silver, striped mushroom and I fly.
And I fly, fly.
It was a big day on Jesus Ranch, Jesus Ranch.
Jesus.
I fell in love with a big potato.
That's when I started the dance, yeah, in France.
I'm takin a walk in the woods, fuck yeah.
It's nice, very very nice.
Smells of shit, Liga Guinggligagiggagoogoogwillgo.
I come upon a silver, striped mushroom, and I fly.
And I fly, fly.
Fly, to the point I'm gone.


these guys are funny :smile:


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: cybrbeast]
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That gargamell is one crazy man.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
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Strumpling said:
I liked the Smurfs reference to Mushrooms:

Old man Gargamel was walking through the forest one day when he discovered a mushroom patch.

After uhh.. "closer examination, :wink:" he realized that little blue men live in these mushrooms!! Since this was such an amazing discovery, he HAD to try and capture at least one of these little blue men so he could show it to his friends to prove he wasn't completely insane.

Unfortunately for old man Gargemel, the little blue men, or "smurfs," only existed in his shroomed-out mind.

:smile: 


I'm sorry to bump a very old post but they are called "Schtroumpfs", this post is even more remarkable with the subtitles on.

also, El-P is a far better producer and rapper than eminem, he says he's too lucid because of the shrooms in his blood.

http://www.sceneario.com/images/couverture-bande-dessinee/2203001097-large-tintin-tome-10-l-etoile-mysterieuse.jpg

Edited by orphee (06/23/22 04:04 PM)

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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: orphee]
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D12 and Eminem: “...I’ve been to mushroom mountain...”
Dirtball from Kottonmouth Kings
2 chainz loves mushrooms

Dr. Albert Hoffman, Aldous Huxley, Jerry Garcia and Terrence McKenna of course.


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I'm sorry to bump a very old post


haha making me feel old! :lol:

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discworld references [Re: FlusH]
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josh kirby even painted them into the book covers


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