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OfflineSheepish
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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1541262 - 05/12/03 09:16 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

White Rabbit

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all.
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall.
And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small.
When the men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low.
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know.
When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead,
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen says "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head. Feed your head. Feed your head"


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1541496 - 05/12/03 11:15 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The song is wooden ships by David Crosby of Crosby Stills Nash and Young.

Was also recorded by the Airplanbe.

mj


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OfflineMadtowntripper
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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1541530 - 05/12/03 11:25 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Thats it! Now I remember....
Wooden ships on the water....

Smart cookie you are....


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Oscuro_lobo]
    #1541604 - 05/12/03 11:58 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

erm.. correct me if I'm wrong, but in that song he says that she's drinking lysol at one point.
I'm have no medical background, but I would think that would probably have more to do with her death in the song than anything..
just at thought.

-ol




She dies because of the lysol, not the shrooms. I would agree though, his statements do spread misinformation.

And for the people who don't give EM any credit, your just trying to turn a blind eye to the fact that he is indeed very talented. If you deny that fact you are just trying to fool yourself.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: slime_R]
    #1541642 - 05/12/03 12:16 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Eminem is smart, he know's how to portray himself and to "sell" himself to the right corporate producers, but I don't think he has too much talent.  Anybody who can write poetry, and with the help of approx $150,000 in mixing equipment ( the same shit that makes backstreet boy's, n-sync.. sound good) and with a friend that owns his own record company can produce some cool sounding songs and get them sold.  But I would say he does not have any real talent.  He cannot even hold a steady note ( CD: The Eminem Show, Song 14 "Hailies song"  he sounds like air expelling out of a dead cat )  The one thing I will give him credit for is the quiet noises in the background, or his overdubs.  When tripping I notice them and they do trip me out and it accents the song, but sober his music is hard to listen to Imo. 

There, I feel better after that rant :grin: 


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
    #1541759 - 05/12/03 12:59 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

thats pretty funny considering most eminem fans would say hes best at freestyle.... but...okay...


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1541822 - 05/12/03 01:12 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Honestly I have not heard any of his freestyle lyrics so I cannot speak for that. I have a few friends in the music industry and when I go down to play on their equipment at their place I can usually create similar beats or better (imo) within 15 minutes and all somebody has to do is just put some word's in there and you have the same quality shit eminem sells in the local record store. I don't have any strong musical talents other than I can read sheet music because of playing the piano as a kid. It does not take talent to make a beat these day's, and judging by his lyrics it don't take too much talent to make his style of song's.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
    #1541868 - 05/12/03 01:28 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

well if what you say is true flush, that its cause of the equipment and being friends with dr dre...then how come dr dre is no where near as popular as eminem? obviously hes doing something right...wheather it be his music talent or his marketing skills


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: ]
    #1541879 - 05/12/03 01:40 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I am not saying that the equipment is making him popular, he know's what the public want's to hear so he creates the lyrics to suit his public, unfortunately there is an abundance of his type( thug's and thug wanabees ) who would love to hear what he is talking about. It does not take talent to make a rhyme about killing a ex girl, or about how shitty life is. Talk is cheap, anybody can do it. But to be able to convey a message that challenges the listener to think and analyze the meaning and do it thew song that they created to suit the lyrics takes talent. I don't think talent is bitching about hard times to a shitty techno beat a shaved ape could create. But then again talent is in the eye of the beholder..


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
    #1541888 - 05/12/03 01:47 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, well, you obviously don't know anything about rap music mr flush.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Malachi]
    #1541916 - 05/12/03 02:03 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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yeah, well, you obviously don't know anything about rap music mr flush.




I actually have 3 of Eminem's CD's, The up in smoke tour video, 2 of Dre's CD's, I use to listen to all of it almost religiously but then I grew up.  I still like rap, but I listen to more "authentic" rap like Killa Klan Kaze, 36 mafia, DJ Paul, Krucifix, and koopsta knicca.  When I say authentic I mean they tell stories of their life, not fabricated idea's of revenge.  I have been listening to rap for 5 years now and for some reason I just got fed up with the sound of Aftermath records.  the same produced shit over and over..  But to get back on topic I don't  think that drug references should be made in this type of music ( eminem, dre, 50cent, whoever ) because of the audience.  It is influential as much as they try to defend their music and I think it was a great idea to put lyric warnings on the labels.  People should be more informed about what they are hearing but it is up to them to figure it out. 

BTW, if anybody want's to continue the eminem debate, PM me and I will be glad to give you my opinion :wink: 


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
    #1542293 - 05/12/03 04:17 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

damn, flush just schooled you man... koopsta knicca

somebody knows what they're talkin' about!

but I don't really think Eminem portrays any sort of thug image, considering he usually raps about he got beat the shit out of as a kid... I enjoyed Eminem up until his third CD. I enjoy the overly-offensive music, I think as the world turns by him is one of the best songs I've ever heard.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: SizzlinJ]
    #1544818 - 05/13/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I actually find eninems music for the most part thought provoking...his music seems honest(tho it may not be) which is more than I can say for most ganster wannabe rap stars...but your point is taken flush


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: ]
    #1545488 - 05/13/03 02:41 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

go download the song "infinite"

after that, if you still think he sucks, then you think he sucks, but you might cange your mind.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1545741 - 05/13/03 04:08 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

The problem is that for those who haven't tried shrooms (mainstream culture), it's hard to understand them. Shrooms have always been somewhat inexplainable, and since most people are too afraid to try them, they'll never know.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: FlusH]
    #1545838 - 05/13/03 04:36 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

Flush, chech out the 8-mile dvd. They have a contest between all the extras in the crowd for a chance to rap in the movie. Some of them are decent I guess. But at the end of it, when they get to flow with em, he tears them apart. Especially when he raps with the girl. Damn he rips on her. I almost felt bad for her.

It really is a skill and freestyling takes a lot of talent.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: slime_R]
    #1545882 - 05/13/03 04:51 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

unfortunately its not shroom-related at all


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: Strumpling]
    #1546088 - 05/13/03 05:57 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

strumpling, i agree, he does not give shrooms the right treatment as far as how he talks about them, but hell, whatever. He does what he does, I dont even like his shit anymore.


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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: domite]
    #1546567 - 05/13/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

In the movie Wallstreet, Charlie Sheen is talking about a painting, "that would look good... yeah if you are on mushrooms!"



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Re: pop culture references to mushrooms [Re: pattern]
    #1547280 - 05/14/03 02:08 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

that sounds kind of negative


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