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eating shrooms puts a toll on you?
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I'v known people who have told me that they aren't going to eat shrooms anymore because it makes them droggy, burnt, and their body just can't handle it anymore.  I noticed after my first shroom trip the week after it was hard for me to focus in on things and it would feel like my pupils are dilating from smaller to larger and visa versa and it still feels like it, but I just go on with life and I pretty much got used to the feeling...  I really want to eat my second small harvest after it dries but I'm afraid that it might do harm to my body...  I know there isn't anything wrong with me except my lungs are probably black do to all the weed I smoke heh, but there are no serious health risks that run in my family that I know of except ADD.  Which might be the reason why I can't really focus on anything and I my mind just wonders, but if it's something that I really enjoy I can concentrate on it :-) Like growing mushrooms :laugh: hehe

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
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I had the same effects after my second trip, but shrooms are perfectly safe for you.  They're not dangerous....your body was probably just exhausted from the inane trip you had from our friend :laugh:  I havn't had the same burnt out feeling since and I've tripped around a dozen times.


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TRaNcE_TriPPeR]
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i have never had said feelings, for that fact the day after i feel great.

perhaps try doesing earlear so you can get some sleep ??

everybody will react diferently

hear you body and do what it tells you!!! that is most inportant

what goes around comes around

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
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When I used to grow shrooms when I was younger I was really zealous and would eat shrooms as often as possible. My friend and I were tripping 8 to 10 times a month. It was way more then I could handle mentally and physically and put me into an extended depression that I had no reason to be in. My every day life became so mundane that I didn't even want to get out of bed to do anything.

I've mature a lot since thoes days and I learned to respect mushrooms. I find that limiting myself to no more then 6 trips a year allows me to enjoy my trips to a much greater extent and allows me to respect my body's limitation.


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: djd586]
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I don't plan on tripping like every two weeks or along that matter. I plan to wait like a few months between my trips, but I enjoyed my last trip a lot and want to try it agian then just stop for a while....

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
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well, if it effects you negatively, then I can't tell you you're wrong, cause you should know, BUT, I think it's very common for people to do drugs and then overanalyze their everyday activity and bodily functions and then come to the conclusion that they aren't perfect and blame it on the drugs. When I first started smoking weed I'd do stuff like run upstairs and then forget what I was running upstairs for and think "Oh no the weed is destroying my short term memory!" And then I'd slap myself and realize that I did this same thing all the time before I ever smoked weed. It's really hard to be objective with this sort of thing. You've got to consider other factors, such as amount of sleep you got and stuff like that.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: Dogomush]
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Just for your guys' info, I trip almost every 2-3 days;
Though, for me, ingesting shrooms helps keep my skin clear and folds my hair with a kind of phloresence; furthermore, they loosen up my vocals and geometrically open up the linguistic part of my brain--in-effect, they help become a more sociable, charismatic human being.

The main problem with this is reading, I am not sure how well I will be able to remember things down the road--I read a ton, and it seems to me that I can only read well after 4+ hours of ingestion, so... that is why I cut back.

Edited by unproportionate (04/10/03 04:23 PM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: unproportionate]
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Quote:
Just for your guys' info, I trip almost every 2-3 days;
Though, for me, ingesting shrooms helps keep my skin clear and folds my hair with a kind of phloresence; furthermore, they loosen up my vocals and geometrically open up the linguistic part of my brain--in-effect, they help become a more sociable, charismatic human being. 

The main problem with this is reading, I am not sure how well I will be able to remember things down the road--I read a ton, and it seems to me that I can only read well after 4+ hours of ingestion, so... that is why I cut back.


u see its things like that, that make any kind of drug user seem horrible...

IMO u should never NEED a substance to do anything, if u do then u can no longer function like everyone else and am abusing the substance. even weed can cloud ur memory a week after smoking.

the key to an entheogen is to respect it and MODERATION.... the less u use it each month the better it is and the more useful it becomes.


even 1 1/2 years later, my memory still fades me and i feel like i have A.D.D. cuz i loose my concentration easily.  MODERATION!  :smile: 

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: icewall]
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You have to remember every drug is unique unto the user.

1) (what the first line of this post is)

2) Your body ALWAYS needs substances-- be it minerals or whatever. Therefore, if i can take a drug that makes me socially a lot more of a person (i say this loosely, it 'exudes' the best charateristics already in me, but to a degree it physically makes me more attractive) then, as long as it is not disabilitating me otherwise, there is no reason I shouldn't be able to take it.

These 'belief' taboos of yours are all shit that mushrooms are this sacred ritual-hot item that must be taken every blue moon. Mckenna did his own thing, I do mine--it is working for me so far. If you have some sort of mushroom regime, then that is your deal. The key is to try it and find out what is best for yourself.

3) the whole part about the less u use it, as proved above, is shit for me personally. BECAUSE it makes me more 'open' and more capable in speaking IT IS ALWAYS USEFUL--i don't know how to explain this, but I am only so attractive, most days I am alright but some days my hair is just better than others. With shrooms, I AM more attractive / most people I meet think so, it is a hell of a drug for me because for most of my life I was usually in the gutter, socially, because I wasn't that good looking. Shrooms do that, but they also flux with my mind, so the overall result is that I am far beyond what I could normally be...

Not to say I always want that though,
and I am moderate (to a degree). But
you can't go slamming people like what
u did to me, when mushrooms have
helped me as much as they continually do.


Anyways, I tend to use my mind a lot
(i read volumes a day, study political economy
as well as organic chemistry
while learning art techiniques as i learn art history
while i write amnesty letters
after I finish exercising (i bike /run everyday of the week)

and it has only gotten
sharper and sharper, and more creative
with the continued ingestion of this drug.


PLEASE DO NOT say it cannot be done or should not,
when EVERY DRUG is unique onto the user.
(there are obvious effects, but the overall direction
is a process between the user and the difference the drug
creates within him/her).

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: unproportionate]
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unproportionate said:
IT IS ALWAYS USEFUL--i don't know how to explain this, but I am only so attractive, most days I am alright but some days my hair is just better than others. With shrooms, I AM more attractive / most people I meet think so, it is a hell of a drug for me because for most of my life I was usually in the gutter, socially, because I wasn't that good looking. Shrooms do that, but they also flux with my mind, so the overall result is that I am far beyond what I could normally be...


 


Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive. It's only your perception of yourself that's altered. Shrooms should never be used as a self-confidence booster. The fact that you depend on them so much is a typical behavior of an abuser. You have rationalized and made so many excuses to do the drug that its a part of your life now.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: logano]
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Shrooms, like LSD, always make me feel "jelly-headed" the next day.  If you smoke a lot of weed, you might not notice it.  It eventually wears off, though.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: 04281969]
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I never felt burnt out or groggy or felt negatively about my health after eating mushrooms, and I've eaten a lot of times I can't really count. I usually eat them around early to late evening, and go to sleep after the trip is all finished, and wake up feeling very refreshed.

One thing unusual that I notice tho is that I seem to be skinnier after the trip is over. I don't know why that is, but after a day or two my body seems back to normal

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: logano]
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logano said:
Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive.


lol

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: logano]
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Quote:
logano said:Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive.


Actually, dilated pupils have been scientifically found to make a person more attractive according to most people.  And I can imagine that all the smiling one does whilst on shrooms might help too, especially for someone who normally doesn't smile much.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TurricaN]
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yea i actually tell im significantly skinnier but its usually because i don't eat for 7 hours and just keep drinkin water and pissing. as for the grogginess, i feel refreshed the next day as if i got one of the best nights of sleep of my life 20+ times i've tripped i always woke up refreshed


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TurricaN]
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I'm curious, but he may not have meant physically attractive. He said he's more happy, social, and w/e. I'm sure his personality/company is more attractive if that is indeed true. Please elaborate unproportionate. How long have you been dosing every few days btw, and how much on average? You've had to of built up a decent tolerance over time.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TurricaN]
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TurricaN said:
Quote:
logano said:Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive.


Actually, dilated pupils have been scientifically found to make a person more attractive according to most people.  And I can imagine that all the smiling one does whilst on shrooms might help too, especially for someone who normally doesn't smile much.


+1

When 2 ppl really love each other, then their both pupils will get big as on shrooms :peace:

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: botha]
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botha said:
TurricaN said:
Quote:
logano said:Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive.


Actually, dilated pupils have been scientifically found to make a person more attractive according to most people.  And I can imagine that all the smiling one does whilst on shrooms might help too, especially for someone who normally doesn't smile much.




+1

When 2 ppl really love each other, then their both pupils will get big as on shrooms :peace:



Mushrooms actually make me taller.
No, wait, they make me shorter.
No, actually they make me heavier.
Or is it lighter?

Oh, fuck I'm so confused.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: El Zorro]
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Nice way to Bering back a 5 year old thread.


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: DiarYofaMadmaN]
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I've tripped on shrooms somewhere from 15-18 times, and the only ill effect i've ever experience is a headache the next day, and it hasnt happened every time either.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
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Ozzy_shroomer said:
Nice way to Bering back a 5 year old thread.



It wasn't me

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: El Zorro]
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u gotta do wut other people that have been using these "magical" "sacred" plants for millenia or generationally  do. Learn from their behaviors and actions concerning these plants. it takes 10-15 years of training under a shaman to become one. It's like a doctor in our culture. Once a shaman, one can ingest these plants multiple times in one week (namely ayahuasca, it's legendary for not having hardly any physical side effects after the experience.) terenece mckenna reports leg cramps after ingesting shrooms frequently)

but since most people aren't shamans, they should follow the advice of consenual approval, based on mass and timely experience with any of these plants, and only ingest these certain types of natural products up to 10 times a year. (srce. erowid.org - tripping f.a.q)
thats comes out to be once every one and a half months.

this wholesale shamanism going on is dangerous. kids don't really knnow wut there getting into. i agree with shultes when he said that this shouldnt be going on how its is, in concerts or as a form of entertainment. but of course then comes the question of freedom. we can do wutever we want right? we're americans! but yeah, even tho if sumone starts out taking this stuff, i believe that eventually the stuff teaches u how to use it, and of course u suffer side effects if u abuse. that goes with everything in life.

Edited by StonedPhilosophr (10/30/08 12:41 PM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
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StonedPhilosophr said:
it's legendary for not having hardly any physical side effects.


Minus  the whole shitting yourself for hours on end. And while throwing up

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:


Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.




The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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Oh, I know, I was just joking. Never heard of shitting yourself, at least not as a consistent thing, on ayahuasca, but I know there's a purging ritual normally.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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optyks said:
krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:


Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.




The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.


I have that book, are you talking about the part where he and his friends are wearing adult depends diapers when they tried ayahuasca? haha.

EDIT: Here i found the quote your talking about on Pg. 139 first paragraph:

"It is a bitter concoction, made of the bark of a vine and the leaves of a shrub. The flavor is like the distilled essence of forest rot. Yage drinkers vomit and shit, shiver and sweat, and at the same time receive outrageously beautiful visions."

And below that there was this on the same page, Paragraph 2:

"I first drank the brew with strangers, wearing Adult Depends diapers and a blindfold, sitting in a small drab apartment overlooking the East River."

Edited by phaseflux (10/30/08 06:31 AM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: logano]
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logano said:
unproportionate said:
IT IS ALWAYS USEFUL--i don't know how to explain this, but I am only so attractive, most days I am alright but some days my hair is just better than others. With shrooms, I AM more attractive / most people I meet think so, it is a hell of a drug for me because for most of my life I was usually in the gutter, socially, because I wasn't that good looking. Shrooms do that, but they also flux with my mind, so the overall result is that I am far beyond what I could normally be...


 


Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive. It's only your perception of yourself that's altered. Shrooms should never be used as a self-confidence booster. The fact that you depend on them so much is a typical behavior of an abuser. You have rationalized and made so many excuses to do the drug that its a part of your life now.


This is an ignorant view :thumbdown: if it works for him that is all that matters. Labeling his use as something negative because it is different than yours is the same type of bigotry-ridden thinking that calls all illegal drug use - abuse. Also, exercising every day is commendable in in our increasingly overweight and unhealthy society (in the US anyway).

edit: lol didn't realize I was responding to a 5 year old post :rofl::bigjoint:



Edited by TacticalBongRip (10/30/08 07:34 AM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
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I initially did psychedelics under the context of just having a blast and for shits and giggles. as I grew older the nature of the trips totally changed to a more philosophical type and my curiosity about them grew.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TacticalBongRip]
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<3 :mushroom2:


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: g00ru]
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sorry , i meant ayahuasca is legendary for not having negative physical side effects AFTER the experience, of course i know of "la purga" DURING the exp.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: phaseflux]
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phaseflux said:
optyks said:
krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:


Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.




The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.


I have that book, are you talking about the part where he and his friends are wearing adult depends diapers when they tried ayahuasca? haha.

EDIT: Here i found the quote your talking about on Pg. 139 first paragraph:

"It is a bitter concoction, made of the bark of a vine and the leaves of a shrub. The flavor is like the distilled essence of forest rot. Yage drinkers vomit and shit, shiver and sweat, and at the same time receive outrageously beautiful visions."

And below that there was this on the same page, Paragraph 2:

"I first drank the brew with strangers, wearing Adult Depends diapers and a blindfold, sitting in a small drab apartment overlooking the East River."


There you go. Thanks for that.

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