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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
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Ozzy_shroomer said:
Nice way to Bering back a 5 year old thread.




It wasn't me

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: El Zorro]
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u gotta do wut other people that have been using these "magical" "sacred" plants for millenia or generationally  do. Learn from their behaviors and actions concerning these plants. it takes 10-15 years of training under a shaman to become one. It's like a doctor in our culture. Once a shaman, one can ingest these plants multiple times in one week (namely ayahuasca, it's legendary for not having hardly any physical side effects after the experience.) terenece mckenna reports leg cramps after ingesting shrooms frequently)

but since most people aren't shamans, they should follow the advice of consenual approval, based on mass and timely experience with any of these plants, and only ingest these certain types of natural products up to 10 times a year. (srce. erowid.org - tripping f.a.q)
thats comes out to be once every one and a half months.

this wholesale shamanism going on is dangerous. kids don't really knnow wut there getting into. i agree with shultes when he said that this shouldnt be going on how its is, in concerts or as a form of entertainment. but of course then comes the question of freedom. we can do wutever we want right? we're americans! but yeah, even tho if sumone starts out taking this stuff, i believe that eventually the stuff teaches u how to use it, and of course u suffer side effects if u abuse. that goes with everything in life.

Edited by StonedPhilosophr (10/30/08 12:41 PM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
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StonedPhilosophr said:
it's legendary for not having hardly any physical side effects.



Minus  the whole shitting yourself for hours on end. And while throwing up

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:



Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.





The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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Oh, I know, I was just joking. Never heard of shitting yourself, at least not as a consistent thing, on ayahuasca, but I know there's a purging ritual normally.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: optyks]
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optyks said:
krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:



Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.





The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.



I have that book, are you talking about the part where he and his friends are wearing adult depends diapers when they tried ayahuasca? haha.

EDIT: Here i found the quote your talking about on Pg. 139 first paragraph:

"It is a bitter concoction, made of the bark of a vine and the leaves of a shrub. The flavor is like the distilled essence of forest rot. Yage drinkers vomit and shit, shiver and sweat, and at the same time receive outrageously beautiful visions."

And below that there was this on the same page, Paragraph 2:

"I first drank the brew with strangers, wearing Adult Depends diapers and a blindfold, sitting in a small drab apartment overlooking the East River."

Edited by phaseflux (10/30/08 06:31 AM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: logano]
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logano said:
unproportionate said:
IT IS ALWAYS USEFUL--i don't know how to explain this, but I am only so attractive, most days I am alright but some days my hair is just better than others. With shrooms, I AM more attractive / most people I meet think so, it is a hell of a drug for me because for most of my life I was usually in the gutter, socially, because I wasn't that good looking. Shrooms do that, but they also flux with my mind, so the overall result is that I am far beyond what I could normally be...


 



Man you need some help. Shrooms don't make you more attractive. It's only your perception of yourself that's altered. Shrooms should never be used as a self-confidence booster. The fact that you depend on them so much is a typical behavior of an abuser. You have rationalized and made so many excuses to do the drug that its a part of your life now.



This is an ignorant view :thumbdown: if it works for him that is all that matters. Labeling his use as something negative because it is different than yours is the same type of bigotry-ridden thinking that calls all illegal drug use - abuse. Also, exercising every day is commendable in in our increasingly overweight and unhealthy society (in the US anyway).

edit: lol didn't realize I was responding to a 5 year old post :rofl::bigjoint:



Edited by TacticalBongRip (10/30/08 07:34 AM)

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: StonedPhilosophr]
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I initially did psychedelics under the context of just having a blast and for shits and giggles. as I grew older the nature of the trips totally changed to a more philosophical type and my curiosity about them grew.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: TacticalBongRip]
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<3 :mushroom2:


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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: g00ru]
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sorry , i meant ayahuasca is legendary for not having negative physical side effects AFTER the experience, of course i know of "la purga" DURING the exp.

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Re: eating shrooms puts a toll on you? [Re: phaseflux]
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phaseflux said:
optyks said:
krypto2000 said:
I think you're getting that confused w/alcohol :tongue:



Quote:
erowid.org said
(On ayahuasca's main page.)

One of its primary effects is considered to be the vomiting (the purge) that accompanies the experience.





The book Breaking Open The Head by Daniel Pinchbeck. I cant seem to find any quotes online from it and I dont have the book at the moment, so...

But yeah... At least shamanistic Ayahuasca ceremonies seems to make people pretty sick from what I've read about.



I have that book, are you talking about the part where he and his friends are wearing adult depends diapers when they tried ayahuasca? haha.

EDIT: Here i found the quote your talking about on Pg. 139 first paragraph:

"It is a bitter concoction, made of the bark of a vine and the leaves of a shrub. The flavor is like the distilled essence of forest rot. Yage drinkers vomit and shit, shiver and sweat, and at the same time receive outrageously beautiful visions."

And below that there was this on the same page, Paragraph 2:

"I first drank the brew with strangers, wearing Adult Depends diapers and a blindfold, sitting in a small drab apartment overlooking the East River."



There you go. Thanks for that.

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