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 Re: Update w/ new substrate 
#14124 - 04/24/00 11:02 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Can you send me an exact list of the stuff you used and the proper amounts for what ever size you made..I wanna give this a try. thanks TyBeck quote:
Originally posted by BoomerZ:
Remember me and my "new" substrate? I was just skimming through posts a long time ago and noticed a few places about adding dextrose to spent cakes to replenish their nutrients so they could grow again. Anyways, it wasnt much later that i noticed that dextrose was 1 of 3 ingredients in Sweet and LOw, the sugar substitue. (dextrose, maltodextrose, aspartime). I decided to experiment, putiing 1 packet per 2 pints of substrate. I also added about an extra 2 teaspoons of water to make up for any drying the sweet and low may have done. I innoculated, incubating at 70/75 degrees (night/day). Germination in 4 days. Its now day 16. I only innoculated on one side only and the cake is about 60% colonized with HEAVY rhozomorphic gorwth. It could also be the strain, but all the times ive grwon before have been little rhozo w/ mainly cottony mycelium. Anyways..the average rhizo strands on the outer parts of the mycelium are about an inch to an inch and a half long. Almost the entirre bottom of the jar is colonized...no flipping it over. I havent evn opened an airhole yet. They are pint jars if that means anything. Ive never seen mycelium this rhizostrandy. Well, maybe i am being too enthusiastic, but if someone else tried it on maybe like 1 or 2 jars, and post results, this could be then next "thing". It obviously doesnt HURT the mycelium in any way. well, thats my input.
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Anonymous
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14126 - 04/24/00 11:05 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm sounds interesting. Did you just add a packet of sweet and low into the substrate?
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14127 - 04/25/00 03:50 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, its regular PF substrate, but i put 1 packet of sweet and low per 2 pints of jars...i didnt want to put any more than that because it was just an experiment. I added about 2 teaspoons extra water though..to make up for any water the sugar subst. may have soaked up. Maybe try putting 1 packet per 1 pint this time. But BEFORE you try this substrate, let me see how it fruits, to give an idea how well it does. I birthed a casing today, so i'll post my results soon.[This message has been edited by BoomerZ (edited April 25, 2000).]
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BoomerZ
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14128 - 04/26/00 05:11 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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The entire bottom of the jar is colonized before the rest of the cake! I havent had to turn it over or anything. The entire cake looks like its got about 6- 10 more days, its slow because i only innnoculated one side. so far so good.
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14129 - 04/26/00 06:23 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think this needs to be experimented. I would, but I dont have my own house and I dont have the freedome to do it. Keep us updated if anybody does experiments with this idea. (maby you might want to cross post this into advance cultivation?)
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Anonymous
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14130 - 04/26/00 06:34 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow! It would be an honor to try this. Please make a detailed tek. Pleassseee.
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BoomerZ
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14131 - 04/26/00 06:41 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well...the thing is that I dont have a control jar to see if its any different. The only thing i CAN say is that its doing better than any of the other jars ive done before. If i had done two innnoculation points, it would have been 100% colonized at about day 15. I dont think this should go in advanced..im still a newbie. (only grown 3 times). Next time im going to experiment with 1 packet per jar and have a control jar. But it obviosly doesnt hurt the substrate to add sweet and low, so go for it, post YOUR results.
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Anonymous
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14132 - 04/26/00 07:19 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's pretty awesome because the bottom part of the jar is the last place my myco will colonize. worth a try.
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Anonymous
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14133 - 04/27/00 10:14 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok well, today I made 14 jars using the alien substrate.
7 of them were regular substrate
7 were the substrate with sweet and low added
I innoculated with cambodian spores.
I will keep results posted.
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Anonymous
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14134 - 04/27/00 01:11 AM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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quote:
Originally posted by BoomerZ:
The entire bottom of the jar is colonized before the rest of the cake! I havent had to turn it over or anything. The entire cake looks like its got about 6- 10 more days, its slow because i only innnoculated one side. so far so good.
ummm this is of the topic but rhizo straindy in your descrioption of myciliem could that be cobweb mold? im a newbie, i grew something in my fishtank but i dont know forshur yet if it is mycilim or cobweb mold. the casing is 75 percent colinated with the stuff but it smells bad kind of sour. the stuff is pure white and like cotton candy and extends to below the soil level, what is it? it has been weeks probably three or four since i innoculated the soil, and im not sure if i shoukld scrap and start over using pf tek or wait? what do you think?
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BoomerZ
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14135 - 04/27/00 02:26 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, MY stuff is definatey mycelium. By rhizostrandy i mean that is has heavy rhizomorphic growth which is a sign that the cake will fruit well. A cottony mcelium is a sign that it may be too cold. Rhizos look like little tiny ropes going in all directions. Explain what you did and maybe we can help. Are you talking about a casing or jars? How and for how long did you sterlize. Mycelium is sort of rubbery and firm to the touch, while cobweb mold will just flatten if you press on it. (IF you do this test use a STERILE fork or something) Its hard to say because you didnt give very much info. Also, i think this belongs in its own thread.
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BoomerZ
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Re: Update w/ new substrate
#14136 - 04/27/00 04:53 PM (23 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wello, i cased a cake about 4 days ago and itsbeginnning to pin, i hope  . Anyways, right after i posted there i looked at my jar and its also beginnning to pin, but it hasnt fully colonized. I'll probly have to take it out early and case it as well. My next Q is, is there such a thing as pre-primordia? Because my"pins" just look like little peices of perlite, but its only been 2 days since they started these little "perlite pre-primordia", so they should be forming primordia in a day or so. I'll post how they fruit also.
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