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Offlinewicish1
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Nice pinset , thats about it though?? "Updated Pic's!"
    #2554110 - 04/13/04 01:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hi all!! Afoaf recently tried a method called "rez-effect". He mixed his substrate/verm at a 2:1 ratio(Koh Samui strain on WBS), it was about 9 cups substrate/4 cups vermiculite wich gave him about 1 3/4" layer of substrate in each 9"x9" container. He used like a 1/2" layer of 50/50 verm/coir casing on the bottom and topped the casing with 1/2" also. As you can see in the pic, there was a very nice pinset but the mushies seem like their going to be pretty small. Also, you can't tell in the pic but, the veil is pulled away from the stem on all most all of them. It's not breaking its more like it wasn't attached to the stem or something. Anyone know what could cause this? Today is the third day into pinning. He uses a VICKS cool mist for air exchange, 1/2hr on, 1hr off plus sprays inside walls once a day to help keep RH up. His RH stays around 90%. Light, 12/12. Not liking these results at all!! :thumbdown:


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Here is a little update.  This is a shot of the middle casing taken today. The middle one seemed to turn out pretty good but not what he expected, small fruits. Most are about as long as a cigarette. The other two casings didn't do very well, mostly 1" or 2" long aborts and a few maturing. I think the problem was not enough fresh air getting to the surface of the two end casings. If you look, the surface of his casings, is about an inch below the top of the containers. His air was comeing in below the tops of the containers but wasn't getting to the casings good. When the air came in, it sort of bounced off the side right to the middle of his terrarium. He moved the air hoses up higher and put poly-fil in the old holes at the bottom. Now the air blows right across the tops. This seems to be helping, the mushies look a little better. It seems like when you get alot of pins like this, the mushies don't get as big, IMHO.



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Didn't turn out all that bad!! I added some more pic's for you to look at.

This is the harvest right after picking, all but about 1/2 ounce. The shrooms in the back are all from the middle casing in the pic above, the pile on the left is from the casing on the left and the pile on the right is from the casing on the right. The pile in the middle is all the aborts from all the casings. To bad the other two didn't turn out like the middle one!


This is a pic right after placing into his new dryer for the first time.


Here is a better one!


Here is a pretty one!!


Not to bad for 7 pints of WBS but could have been way better if the two end casings would have turned out better. All casings were made the same exact way. Same substrate, same everything! The only thing he can think of is possibly air exchange at first. Their dunking now so maybe the second might be nicer!! :grin:






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Edited by wicish1 (04/16/04 08:17 PM)


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2554291 - 04/13/04 02:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It could be a CO2 exchange problem. Have you thought about putting holes covered in tyvek or plugged with polyfill towards the bottom? You could add an air pump (fishtank variety) to get better air exchange.

-J


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2554372 - 04/13/04 02:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Your WBS may not be fully colonized

your inducing pinning late

telling from the pic it looks like the RH is very high and is causing overlay, which is also caused by late pin inducing

Thai strains generally need poo to grow big, also, I usually use WBS as spawn

Your light looks good

make sure you fan to dissapate CO2 and keep RH at check

consider spawning poo, poo/straw

make sure light isn't coming through the bottom, that could cause pins to form and ones you can't see can rot and invite contams


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2562583 - 04/15/04 09:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I added a small update above for anyone interested!! :headbang:


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: soochi]
    #2562611 - 04/15/04 09:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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soochi said:
Your WBS may not be fully colonized



Yes, they were 100%!

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your inducing pinning late



Incubated casing for 2-3 days with one patching. Knots formed about 4 days later.

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telling from the pic it looks like the RH is very high and is causing overlay, which is also caused by late pin inducing



RH stays between 85%-90%!

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Thai strains generally need poo to grow big, also, I usually use WBS as spawn



Oh, really?
Pic of Koh Samui T3 grown on strait WBS!!


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Your light looks good



Thank You!

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make sure you fan to dissapate CO2



I think this was my problem!!

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consider spawning poo, poo/straw



I am!!

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make sure light isn't coming through the bottom, that could cause pins to form and ones you can't see can rot and invite contams



Theres not!


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2562674 - 04/15/04 09:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I disagree with pretty much everything you said soochi :laugh:...I probably would have let the casing layer colonize a lil more than that I see NO signs of overlay I also kinda doubt the air exchange theory since casings with bad air exchange usually have less pins and the shrooms are very thin and long....I personally think its your substrate depth to be honest...get some bigger trays and add a couple "'s. I'd also recommend cutting out the bottom layer and upping the subtrate/verm ratio to 1:1...I personally like 3qts millet/3qts verm for my trays at least....this gives me approx 3-4"'s of substrate...anyways if you add some depth I think you'll get the same pinset but with big shrooms

nice job btw those shrooms look very healthy to me despite being small


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2562712 - 04/15/04 10:11 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, I agree about the substrate depth but, the biggies in the pic above were grown from a casing with about the same substrate depth. Also the same WBS just no verm added. Overall, I think a deeper substrate can solve a lot of issues!


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2562859 - 04/15/04 11:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

did you have that kinda pinset with the other casing? bigger the pinset the smaller the shrooms will be overall, tho in the end you get more weight


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2568994 - 04/16/04 08:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hello people!! Added some more pics to gaze apon!!


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: wicish1]
    #2569120 - 04/16/04 08:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Looks great and yes larger shrooms = deeper substrate check out the photo's below in sig. Good Job


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? "Updated Pic's!" [Re: wicish1]
    #2569144 - 04/16/04 09:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dayum!!! Good job...


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? "Updated Pic's!" [Re: wicish1]
    #2569411 - 04/16/04 10:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Thankz for the compliments!! Makes a person wanna keep on growin!!


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? "Updated Pic's!" [Re: wicish1]
    #2571158 - 04/17/04 03:20 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

You guys are all talking like that your production is alright but man i want to tell u that youve done a hell of a job. Youve got a ton of shrooms on your hand man and i congragulate you. Im still drooling from those pics man. You had piles and piles of shrooms. I cant wait till i get there. Im still working on my first grow, has been taking me a while because i screwed up which made the jars colonize extremely slow. Im looking forward to my second grow because now i have seen 1st hand how its done and hopefully improve my yeild a ton.


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? "Updated Pic's!" [Re: Juggtop]
    #2572011 - 04/17/04 09:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thankz Juggtop!!

Just to let everyone know, my foaf got 64 grams dry from those!!
Not to bad I'd say!


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Re: Nice pinset , thats about it though?? WTF? [Re: Iamthewalrus]
    #2591185 - 04/22/04 03:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I go only by pics.

Bad pic, bad advice. Then I just give general advice, take it or leave it.

BTW A proper casing shouldn't have mycelia on top. just casing. That's the whole point.


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