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The Chemical Plant
    #1403985 - 03/23/03 06:21 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

They found a 100 acre camoflauged chemical plant. Protected by Generals and booby trapped and surrounded by an electric fence.

BUT THIS WAR IS STILL ABOUT OIL!


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1404052 - 03/23/03 06:48 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Someone will claim we planted it as part of the US conspiracy the rule the world.
Too many here never stopped peaking.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1404078 - 03/23/03 06:58 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

They have found just that, a chemical plant. To presume anything further without any proof as to what sort of chemicals were being manufactured or stored, would be, well, rather presumptuous. It is rather suspicious, however Iraq has a number of chemical facilities being a petrol. producing country. Any number of them could be of importance to the military, so it would not be surprising to find some of them gaurded by the military. No proof of WMD have been found yet.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404081 - 03/23/03 07:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Why was is made to look like part of the desert then?


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Murex]
    #1404094 - 03/23/03 07:03 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Who knows? It certainly could be a chemical weapons plant. I am just pointing out the fact that it has not been proven to be so, so there is no need to toot our own horns just yet.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404102 - 03/23/03 07:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Who knows?

I know.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404109 - 03/23/03 07:08 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

As of yet. I'm waiting to see.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Murex]
    #1404112 - 03/23/03 07:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'm sure you do. You can assume all you want. Your assumptions may turn out to be correct, however assuming and presuming without proof is dangerous.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1404115 - 03/23/03 07:10 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

As is the world. I heard on the news a few minutes ago that they have found another chemical plant. No real details were released.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404163 - 03/23/03 07:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I agree it is to early to jump to conclusions, but it looks pretty suspicious. I do think we shopuld get some unbias inspectors out there before this is colored as more US lies and conspiricy.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1404215 - 03/23/03 07:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

anyone who believes that this is a chemical weapons plant will also believe other propaganda bullshit, such as saddam was killed on the first day, coalition casualties only number around 10, and the iraqi people are going to welcome the americans with dancing and cheering. whatever CNN reports, it's a safe bet that the opposite is true. if they say, "a few pockets of light resistance" then this means, "fierce resistance from all directions."


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: rhizo]
    #1404219 - 03/23/03 07:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

What station were you watching???


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Murex]
    #1404234 - 03/23/03 07:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

me?


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1404269 - 03/23/03 08:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No, I'm cross-eyed, Rizo you twit. When I Reply to Goofballs, you stand up and take a sip of coffe.


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: rhizo]
    #1404448 - 03/23/03 09:53 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

anyone who believes that this is a chemical weapons plant will also believe other propaganda bullshit, such as saddam was killed on the first day, coalition casualties only number around 10, and the iraqi people are going to welcome the americans with dancing and cheering. whatever CNN reports, it's a safe bet that the opposite is true. if they say, "a few pockets of light resistance" then this means, "fierce resistance from all directions."





Your a very silly person. You are a victim of anti-American propaganda. You jump to conclusions about everything.



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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1404514 - 03/23/03 11:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

maybe you're right, but if what i say makes just one person a little bit more skeptical of what they're hearing or reading then i will be "liberated". i've posted this article before but it seems relevant here. we accuse al-jazeera of being an outlet for iraqi propaganda, but it seems to me they are just showing all angles of this war, dead bodies, babies with their heads blown apart, and other things the pentagon does not want you to see. i want to motivate people to seek out news sources that are not filtered through the propaganda machine.



"Media, not military, will censor information

By Stephanie jordan
Staff Writer

March 19, 2003

While the U.S. military will not directly censor the media in the coming weeks, experts say news organizations might fall prey to self-censoring the material they release to the public.

Wartime could prove trying for journalists as they debate what news is safe to release without endangering the nation's security.

Carol Winkler, chairwoman of Georgia State University's Communications Department, said there won't be any formal restrictions on reports by the press.

She said that in previous times of war, the government has given the media guidelines regarding what they would like the press to omit. But she added that these are only suggestions and that the press can choose whether or not to abide.

But Winkler said she still thinks the press will be sympathetic to U.S. military efforts.

"Media coverage will show the U.S. at an advantage as best they can," she said. "If they have pictures of the Iraqi military and people supporting the U.S. or evidence of Iraqi biological and chemical weapons, they will show them."

UNC journalism Professor Chuck Stone, who specializes in media censorship, said the press will not publish certain things, such as timetables regarding U.S. troop deployment, that might cause problems for U.S. forces overseas.

The media also won't show Iraqi people rising against U.S. efforts, Winkler said, and they won't show innocent civilians being killed, particularly women and children. "The media will be pretty respectful of what the administration wants, and they definitely will not reveal where the troops are, which was a major problem in the Gulf War."

But experts said that no matter what information and photographs are released or restricted, they will spark public criticism.

"The media will have to strike a balance and give just enough information," Stone said. "They'll gather as much as they can but sift out what will cause problems for field troops on the firing line."

He also said that although U.S. soldiers might be shown dead on film or in pictures, they will not be shown dead in a graphic manner, such as severely burned.

Daniel Hallin, a communications professor at the University of California at San Diego, also said the media will attempt to avoid public backlash. "The media will use self-censorship, censoring graphic information and controversial issues and anything reflecting negatively on U.S. troops."

Winkler said photographs will be reviewed through a lengthy process before publication. "They most likely won't be released the day of the story but rather will be held until they will not hurt the administration as much."

But despite probable self-censorship, some information that is sure to be released might cause the public to think twice about war, Stone said. "The majority of the public is supporting the president right now. And graphic photos or information will cause the public to say 'That's the price you pay.'"

Stone said no matter what the public thinks of the war and possible self-censorship, people will be compelled to stay informed.

"We're in crisis mode right now, and the more information you get, the more you can cope. It's better to know than not know."

Contact the State & National Editor at stntdesk@unc.edu"


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Re: The Chemical Plant [Re: Cracka_X]
    #1404602 - 03/24/03 01:04 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i'm going to wait until it's confirmed.


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    #1404606 - 03/24/03 01:10 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

At least you're learning. The other day you were convinced that Iraq was launching "Scud" missiles.


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    #1404609 - 03/24/03 01:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

we're all wrong from time to time. I can admit that.


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    #1405259 - 03/24/03 08:41 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

*bump*

Has anyone heard any news pertaining to either of these plants today?


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