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I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life.
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Dream interpretation is rather pointless IMO, and assumes that there is some sort of greater meaning behind dreams, when in actuality, they are nothing but mere neural oscillations. :brainfart:


That said, I've been having some kick-ass dreams these past couple of nights. :stoned:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Poid]
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What the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves.  :smirk:


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: deCypher]
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So you are saying Poid is a thinker?

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: DieCommie]
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*Thinker


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: DieCommie] * 1
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Why put this forward? Waking reality and dreams are equally relevant, but you can't see them unified. What's your question?


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Poid]
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Quote:
I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life.


I think statements are like dreamzzz


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Sellith]
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Sellith said:
Waking reality and dreams are equally relevant, but you can't see them unified.

Equally relevant to what? What do you mean by "you can't see them unified"?


Sellith said:
What's your question?

I don't have a question, I just think dream interpretation is nonsense.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Poid]
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Nonsense compared to what? Isn't life equally nonsense?


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Sellith]
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Sellith said:
Nonsense compared to what?

Compared to things that aren't nonsensical, I suppose.


Sellith said:
Isn't life equally nonsense?

This statement is nonsense; life just is, dream interpretation is a futile process of assigning meaning to dreams.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Poid] * 2
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your posts are nonsense

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: JohnnyZampano] * 1
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JohnnyZampano said:
your posts are nonsense


its really not worth it to debate with a poid

:themoreyouknow:


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: the bizzle] * 1
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the bizzle said:
JohnnyZampano said:
your posts are nonsense


its really not worth it to debate with a poid

:themoreyouknow:


This was a hit and run. I've got a brick wall to go debate with.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Poid] * 2
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From experience recording my dreams on a nightly basis for the past three years I have found that there are many varieties of dreams. If you aren't receptive to your dreams you are more than likely only going to experience the most prevalent type. The best description I've heard of these type of dreams are "karmic dreams", which essentially are the patterns we exhibit in waking life carried over into the dream realm.

Other dreams, which increase in frequency when you open yourself to them, exhibit symbolism that is either latent in the subconscious or from elsewhere. Some of these dreams I have taken literally, such as a dream where I was lucid conversing with my recently passed grandfather. Other dreams have shown me that space and time are irrelevant, for I have accurately predicted sporting event outcomes.

I won't claim to have all the answers. Dreams are such a mystery. Perhaps dreams are merely the mechanism in which our own minds create meaningful meaning to positively benefit our lives. Maybe we are more intelligent on a subconscious level. Dreams are literally out of this world and make every night an exciting adventure. Maybe you need to analyze less and enjoy more.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I did have one dream a while back that kind of scared me straight. For the longest time I was really crappy about brushing my teeth and eating tons of sugar, thus my mouth is filled with lots of fillings and my mind has memories of horrible painful trips to the dentist.

One night I dreamed all my teeth were incredibly rotted and nasty, like the pictures of meth heads you see with really messed up teeth. They were falling out and I had a bag full of rotted fallen out teeth.

I have brushed my teeth at least once a day since then, and no longer eat candy or sugar.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: JohnnyZampano]
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Hmm... are you suggesting that 'life' is any different then a dream?...


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: foliocb]
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foliocb said:
Hmm... are you suggesting that 'life' is any different then a dream?...


If they were the same then why would we have two different words for them?

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: DieCommie]
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I don't :wink:

I dunno though... maybe its because our language system is retro and.... dumb?


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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: foliocb]
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c0sm0nautt said:
From experience recording my dreams on a nightly basis for the past three years I have found that there are many varieties of dreams. If you aren't receptive to your dreams you are more than likely only going to experience the most prevalent type. The best description I've heard of these type of dreams are "karmic dreams", which essentially are the patterns we exhibit in waking life carried over into the dream realm.

Other dreams, which increase in frequency when you open yourself to them, exhibit symbolism that is either latent in the subconscious or from elsewhere.

How do you know this? Can't it just be that it only appears to exhibit such symbolism because you're looking for it?


c0sm0nautt said:
Some of these dreams I have taken literally, such as a dream where I was lucid conversing with my recently passed grandfather. Other dreams have shown me that space and time are irrelevant, for I have accurately predicted sporting event outcomes.

How consistently can you do this? Even if you're right every time, what does that have to do with whether or not your dreams are symbolic of your waking life?


c0sm0nautt said:
I won't claim to have all the answers. Dreams are such a mystery. Perhaps dreams are merely the mechanism in which our own minds create meaningful meaning to positively benefit our lives.

Meaningful meaning? Redundancy much?

Not all dreams positively benefit our lives (e.g. nightmares), so I don't really agree with your statement.


c0sm0nautt said:
Maybe we are more intelligent on a subconscious level.

There's no proof that we even have a subconscious, maybe you mean unconscious:

Subconscious - Wikipedia
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The term subconscious is used in many different contexts and has no single or precise definition. This greatly limits its significance as a definition-bearing concept, and in consequence the word tends to be avoided in academic and scientific settings.

In everyday speech and popular writing, however, the term is very commonly encountered as a layperson's replacement for the unconscious mind, which in Freud's opinion is a repository for socially unacceptable ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions put out of mind by the mechanism of psychological repression.

The idea of the "subconscious" as a powerful or potent agency has allowed the term to become prominent in the New Age and self-help literature, in which investigating or controlling its supposed knowledge or power is seen as advantageous.


c0sm0nautt said:
Dreams are literally out of this world and make every night an exciting adventure. Maybe you need to analyze less and enjoy more.

I don't analyze my dreams, that's my point. :lol:

To think that my dreams are necessarily symbolic of my unconscious mind would be false IMO.



foliocb said:
I don't :wink:

I dunno though... maybe its because our language system is retro and.... dumb?

You think dreams and waking life are the same thing? Maybe your conception of reality is dumb? :shrug2:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
foliocb said:
Hmm... are you suggesting that 'life' is any different then a dream?...


If they were the same then why would we have two different words for them?


the same reason we have multiple words that describe the same thing. it's all the blanket.


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: I think dreams are random and meaningless, like life. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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The terms 'dream' and 'waking life' are not synonymous--we only have multiple words that describe the same thing if those words are synonyms.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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